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walker or navigator

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by mds2000, Oct 17, 2009.

  1. pflasch

    pflasch LawnSite Senior Member
    from VA
    Messages: 294

    Walker has a brand new 48" GHS Deck (same design as the 52" deck with reverse direction on the blades!) called "DGHS48", and a brand new 48" Mulching Deck called "DML48"! I haven't seen any input yet about either deck.

    To see all of the new decks, check out: http://gallery.walkermowers.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=Decks
  2. txgrassguy

    txgrassguy LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,083

    I just called Exmark about the rumblings concerning a side discharge deck. The tech I spoke with was aware of these rumblings and supposedly will call me back with a yes or no answer.
    I purchased my Navigator with the expressed understanding a side discharge deck was going to be available - three years later I'm still waiting.
    If it wasn't for the local Walker dealer being such a dick I would have bought a Walker first. Dude actually told me I was "too small" of an operation for his dealership as I was inquiring about one machine plus attachments. Fast forward three years and $98K in purchases/equip my question from one dealer (not the Walker jerkoff) is am I still too small?
    If Exmark does indeed come out with a side discharge deck for the Navigator I'll keep it. If not I'll dump the Navigator and find another Walker dealer as I need two machines with multiple attachment capability and the Exmark just isn't getting it done.
    Don't get me wrong as I like the bagging capability and quality of cut - but I am not going to keep one machine around for two days of work when I can get five out of a Walker.
  3. RTR Landscaping

    RTR Landscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 390

    I,m a Scag guy so I've got no dog in this hunt. My Scag dealer sells Walker also and says he's gotten some of the Navigator guys back to Walker because the Exmark leaves a heavy footprint. The Walker is known to have the prettiest cut around. My 2 cents worth, go with Walker.
  4. dishboy

    dishboy LawnSite Fanatic
    from zone 6
    Messages: 6,109

    Wow ! Imagine that, 200 lbs does make a difference:rolleyes: Now stick a operator on the Navigator who is "caloric challenged" and we are talking wheel tracks.
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2009
  5. mdlwn1

    mdlwn1 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,443

    And just exactly HOW is this relevant?
  6. dishboy

    dishboy LawnSite Fanatic
    from zone 6
    Messages: 6,109

    I only see one deck with outward counter rotating blades, the 52"
  7. dishboy

    dishboy LawnSite Fanatic
    from zone 6
    Messages: 6,109

    Walker offers a zillion deck options and Exmark offers two, if you can't see a advantage to this their is no hope in explaining as you won't understand anyway.
  8. pflasch

    pflasch LawnSite Senior Member
    from VA
    Messages: 294

    Dishboy... my bad!
    They didn't shoot a picture of the new deck yet. It's actually called DGHS48R Deck... the "R" meaning "reverse blade direction".

    I did pickup an info sheet titled "New for 2010", and it is on there.
    The info sheet has pictures of it, the DML48, and a DSD42 Side Discharge (this is a redesigned deck)... also the Model MB with either a Briggs or a Kohler 18 hp with several design changes... and the Model MBS (Super B) with the upgraded PTO Clutch, improved 60" DSD60 Deck and a Yanmar Diesel option.
  9. txgrassguy

    txgrassguy LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,083

    Just heard from an Exmark employee in Tech Services, Lennie, who explained there is no plan at all for a side discharge deck for the Navigator.
    What allegedly is supposed to be released (if anything ExMark says now can be believed) is an electric dump option and bins which are supposed to fit inside of the primary collection bin on the Navigator. But no side discharge deck.
    Well, I'm off to talk to the next local Walker mower dealer - by by ExMark Navigator.
    To say I am royally pissed off is a massive understatement. The local rep to ExMark bullshitted me and the dealer by saying the very FIRST attachment was going to be a side discharge deck - fast forward three years and no damned deck.
    All of which equals No More ExMark machines for my company - NOT ONE AND NEVER AGAIN - I simply cannot abide a liar.
    So now I have an '06 Navigator with 428.7 hours, all up dates - for sale.
    $6,000.00 or best offer.
  10. tallimeca

    tallimeca LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,229

    should have asked me, I could have told you there is no plan for a SD deck. They talked about it when they released it, but people buying an exmark navigator have no interest in a side discharge, if they did, they would have bought a lazer. If you wanted the options, walker is the machine that should have been bought. Buying a machine for 10k on a whim that a SD MIGHT BE AVAILABLE is a chance you took. Didn't work out.

    It's an advantage that less then 5 percent of purchasers take. This is why Exmark doesn't bother with it. If someone needs these options, buy the walker hands down.

    It's all about doing your research.

    Not an issue i've seen or heard of around here. We've had more rain this year then ever before and most of these machines are running on high end homes with irrigation so the soil is always damp. Guess it depends on where you are. Isn't effecting my sales.....and my customers are happy, which is all I care about

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