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Wall Estimate

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by ooo, Jun 5, 2006.

  1. ooo

    ooo LawnSite Member
    Messages: 235

    Im having a friend give me a price on doing some walls at a customers house. Im trying to get an idea on how "good' his pricing is.

    I will be using Keystone Legacy Stone (6"H X 16"W)
    All walls will have caps, caps are additional height to the heights below)

    The walls are the following sizes:
    #1 - 114' long X 36" high (30" above ground, 1 block burried)
    #2 - 30' long X 30"high (24" above, 1 block burried)
    #3 - 26' long X 18"high (12" above, 1 block burried)
    #4 - 19' long X 18"high (12" above, 1 block burried)

    He bid (will give discount if all 4 are done by him):
    #1 - $10800
    #2 - $3200
    #3 - $2650
    #4 - $2500

    Anyone give me a general idea what they might charge for these?
  2. rluscomb

    rluscomb LawnSite Member
    Messages: 31

    I think your friend is kinda sticking it to you, wall # 1 he bid $32.00 foot, wall # 2 came out to $41.00 foot, #3 $63.00 per foot, & #4 $83.00, that is just one expensive wall. Depending on the type of wall, location, type of material needed, etc. our basic wall starts at $6.00 per linear foot, and up to $75.00 per L.F.

    Judging by the photos of the Keystone, that is the same rock in Florida called "Sandcastle" which can be purchased for $1.49 a piece at Home Depot. They are approx. 12" w ea. so for wall # 1 you only need 342 + 15% for waste. You can use existing soil for a base and you dont need any reinforcement grid, and you by yourself can install this wall in 4-6 hrs. Bid this wall at $8.00 L.f so 8x393' (add in waste) =$3144.00 not bad for a few hours. tools needed: Hammer, Rubber mallet, hand tamper, shovel round & flat, level, torpedo level, common sense, & good sense of humor, oh a concrete chisle also. Good luck
  3. richallseasons

    richallseasons LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 479

    that wall might fly in FLA. but up north if you put out that kinda work you better run and hide cause someone is gonna wanna know where you learned to build a wall!!! and whos payin to rebuild it properly:hammerhead:
  4. richallseasons

    richallseasons LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 479

    if the materials cost about the same up here im going

    1)10,950.00 plus tax
    2)2,880.00 pt
    3)1,664.00 pt
    4)1,216.00 pt

    also ad any excavation fees
  5. Pavers Plus

    Pavers Plus LawnSite Member
    Messages: 83

    Pricing seems pretty close to what it should be. Price is determined by several factors like site access, existing dirt/rock, ability to excavate such ground, height of the wall, etc..... And NO, don't use the existing dirt for the base.......Not even in Florida. That's just as bad as the Florida paver installers that put pavers on a sand base with no gravel for the base. Also, one of the hardest parts of wall installation is the base + 1st course installed. The 2nd-5th course go pretty fast, especially compared to the 1st course and base.

    I'd ask him to use Keystone Compact Unit or Keystone Century before I used the Keystone Legacy. If he used either of the top two block, the price charged is reasonable.

    One more thing..... since he's your friend, he's probably putting in a "Friend" price clause, which is usually added to the price when the contractor feels the "Friend" may ask for some freebies during the job. It's tough to work for friends, family and neighbors.....sometimes. It's still a business and he needs to make money to stay in business. If you've seen his work and it's good, then be glad he is willing to do work for you and be happy to pay what he asks.
  6. Mike33

    Mike33 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,649

    Pricing can vary . Wall # 1 i would build for 7,000.00 with out excavation dont know what is there , haul away , etc. 114' is long with out seeing it could be 8 hours of dig, and a day of trucking. The other 3 i dont feel like figuring. I would use a better product, i like allen block.
  7. Ramairfreak98ss

    Ramairfreak98ss LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,210

    ? 32ft x 114ft comes out to $3648, same with the others, how are you getting this? per level of block?

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