Water & ice for employees?

Discussion in 'Employment' started by Gundog100, Aug 26, 2018.

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  1. azlandshapes

    azlandshapes LawnSite Member
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    Az is a **** show when it comes to employees. I offer $100 to employees who bring a guy in that stays 3 mos. only one a year get paid out because the dudes fail to perform on the most basic levels. Show up w/in 15 mins of start time, load the punch list, report work performed, call in when not coming, don’t leave tools behind etc. sad scenario these days.
     
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  2. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes LawnSite Fanatic
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    There's no way I would supply bottled water. Ice and water in a jug, sure. Even better if they bring their own but well water is basically free and 2 bags of ice in a 5 gallon jug will last a solid 3 days even in 90°+.

    No way I'd buy lunch every day either. I can't/won't afford to eat out every day.
     
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  3. azlandshapes

    azlandshapes LawnSite Member
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    Lunch!!! Wtf is this google?
     
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  4. biodale

    biodale LawnSite Member
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    OSHA requires. cool water available. I have a freezer for ice and a jug available. The guys never use it. They bring their own. But I’ve been inspected by WISHA. (Washington state OSHA). Do you want a big fine. Don't supply water. Write a big check to pay the fine. Why would you want to risk making someone sick or killing them with heat stroke
     
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  5. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes LawnSite Fanatic
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    OSHA says nothing about cool water being available. Potable water yes, but not cool.
     
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  6. That Guy Gary

    That Guy Gary LawnSite Silver Member
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    I'd rather work for an employer who thinks he needs to provide cool water than one who doesn't think he needs to provide it at all.
     
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  7. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes LawnSite Fanatic
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    I'm not making any judgments on that, just pointing out that 2 people have posted that OSHA requires employers to provide cool or cold water. That is wrong.

    I've provided bagged ice as well as an ice maker, employees stopped using it and were bringing their own. I'll gladly do it again if they ask.
     
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  8. NatesLawnCareLLC

    NatesLawnCareLLC LawnSite Member
    from Iowa
    Messages: 107

    I bought "2 gallon" water coolers for everyone and said they could keep them. Use them for water, Gatorade or whatever they bring them everyday and love them because they keep the drink SUPER cold even on the hottest days.
     
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    Gundog100

    Gundog100 LawnSite Member
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    This post seems to have caused a lot of disagreements, I solved this by purchasing a small used chest freezer for $30 last year.
    We keep half the bottles in the freezer and half in storage, when you throw them all in the cooler the frozen ones melt and the warm ones cool down so it works really well.
    My problem was never particularly the $2 per day spent on ice ($500 a year) it was also the wasted time of 3 men going to the gas station every day to buy it, 10 mins per day x 3 men, 2.5 man hrs per week
     
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  10. azlandshapes

    azlandshapes LawnSite Member
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    Yup I provide those orange coolers you can buy at Home Depot for 20 some odd bucks. If the temperature is under 100 a bag of ice to last you two days. Employing people to work in the desert I have to provide some sort of water and frankly it should be cool. It’s hard enough to expect people to keep moving when the temperature is 103° no friggin lunch A couple of days a week I’ll show at the job site with oranges and bananas but that’s as far as it goes in anyone to expect that to happen daily after day is sorely going to be surprised
     
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