From what I have been reading on this forum, if my second pic is indeed Stilt Grass, Acclaim Extra seems to be the recommended treatment. For the other broad leaf weeds, I think you are right, there are many herbicides that will do the trick, and a blend might be the best way to go.... I did get a quote from the local Lawn Doctor, he actually took a sample of the offending grass and got back to me just this morning, he also came to the conclusion it was Stilt Grass. Said he had a product that "might" take care of it, but no guarantee, I plan to ask him for the name of this product...maybe its Acclaim..Other option was round up and re-seed. I had previously mentioned a concern about over-seeding without an irrigation system. Seems we've been going through some relatively long dry patches, and my yard is just too big to handle with hoses...We are also getting a bit late in the season I think. So he recommended doing a couple of ferts this year and get full time on the program with pre-m, etc in the spring. So I think I'll start, it should help with most of my problems anyway. We'll see how the next year goes and then re-evaluate.