Well, it looks like I have to fire one

Discussion in 'General Industry Discussions' started by DFW Area Landscaper, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. DFW Area Landscaper

    DFW Area Landscaper LawnSite Silver Member
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 2,116

    A new guy I hired took 1,200 door hangers with him over the weekend. He was supposed to deliver a route I had given him on Saturday.

    The secret shopper indicated he had not recieved the door hanger by Saturday night. The truck was gone for at least some time on Saturday because I stopped in at our storage facility that day and it was not there. I double checked with the secret shopper late Sunday afternoon...still nothing. So I drover through some of the neighborhoods on his door hanger route sheet. Nothing. Even the homes for sale that appear vacant. Nothing.

    Either the worker comes in this morning with a story that he only delivered a few hundred on Saturday and then called it quits or I will have to let him go.

    Too harsh? Or should I give the guy a second chance?

    DFW Area Landscaper
  2. geogunn

    geogunn LawnSite Gold Member
    from TN
    Messages: 3,010

    if you handed me 1200 door hangers... I'd hand them back to you.

    GEO :laugh:
  3. SPLC

    SPLC LawnSite Member
    from Zone 5
    Messages: 51

    Ask him why, I'm sure he'll either lie or come up with a story. If he begs and pleads, tell him that you will keep him on, but will cut his pay for a period of time. You are the boss. Or just cut him loose, that's what I'd do.
  4. Squizzy246B

    Squizzy246B LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 837

    When all is said and done the relationship between boss and employee has to have trust. If you can't trust him he can't work for you.

    If he comes back and lies get it over with and move on.
  5. work_it

    work_it LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 976

    DFW, how were you compensating him for his time? Did he have to punch a time clock, keep his own log, or did you just plan on estimating the time it should take? It seems to me it would be the first thing I would check.
  6. B&D Lawn Care

    B&D Lawn Care LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 342

    Company vehicle, a job to do? Why should you even ask. CAN HIS ASS!!!
  7. work_it

    work_it LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 976

    Yes, he used a company vehicle...for how long? During that time how many flyers did he hand out/distribute? Compare those to the hours he worked.
    If he used a company vehicle for personal use fire him.
    If he logged time that he obviously didn't work fire him.
    If he claims to have handed out flyers he didn't...fire him.

    All I'm saying is to do a little investigation. eg-What if he comes in and says something like...I came in and got the truck, but had a family emergency. I ended up parking the truck at home and took my_________to the hospital/or whatever. I still have all the flyers and didn't have a chance to work this weekend.

    I know it's a stretch, but things happen. If he's honest isn't trying to take advantage of you then give him another chance. On the other hand, if he isn't being honest and has taken advantage of you/your trust it'll be easy to determine.
  8. Lux Lawn

    Lux Lawn LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,267

    DFW,I would check his log to see how long he said it took him to pass out these door hangers.Maybe something came up and he only worked a couple of hours...I would wait until after talking to him before making any final decisions.
    Looks like your secret shoppers are paying off.
  9. walker-talker

    walker-talker LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 4,771

    If he was one on my employees and he lied to me, I would fire him. It would be deserving and set a good example for the other empoyees.
  10. DFW Area Landscaper

    DFW Area Landscaper LawnSite Silver Member
    from DFW, TX
    Messages: 2,116

    Well, I had to let him go. He insisted he delivered every house on the route sheet. The secret shopper did not get one and he noticed a vacant house down the street did not have one the day after. I drove through the neighborhoods he was scheduled to do the day after, around 5:00pm, and didn't see a single door hanger anywhere. Usually, there are at least a few here and there that aren't picked up within 24 hours, especially on the vacant homes.

    All four crew leaders were present when I let him go, so hopefully, they realize I am not bluffing about the secret shoppers. Now I have to find another replacement.

    Why can't these guys just be honest????

    DFW Area Landscaper

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