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  1. OakNut

    OakNut LawnSite Platinum Member
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    For you local Toro guys who use Super Recyclers as trim mowers:

    Toro has introduced a stupid "Iso-Flex" handle on a bunch of the Personal Pace equipped mowers - including my favorite SR4 mowers. (SO FAR I don't think it's on the model with the Honda engine)
    I was looking for a cheap mower and decided I'd get the Super Recycler withe the "Toro" engine to save a few bucks over the Honda engine model. That's when I saw the Iso-Flex crap.

    Instead of the locking pins popping into one of the two holes to adjust the handle angle, it now rides in a "slot" that allows the handle to move about an inch and a half forward and back, and it rests on a "squishy" rubber bumper. I'm sure it takes some shock out of the handle, but really, I've been using these mowers for almost ten years and have never found vibration or "jarring" to be an issue.

    What IS and issue now is that when you get to the end of a run and press down to spin around, instead of the mower immediately pivoting when you push down on the handle, you have to "bottom out" on the squishy bumper before the mower tilts to turn around.
    It's not the end of the world, but it DOES make instant turns take a little more time to do.
    I don't like it at all.

    I found one at my dealer that's a leftover from last season that has the standard handle in use for years and years. I'm going to get it before I'm stuck having to settle for Toro's "improved" handle.

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  2. sjessen

    sjessen LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Knoxville, Tn
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    Zip tie that handle until it is rigid.
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  3. OakNut

    OakNut LawnSite Platinum Member
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    You can't. And even if you could, it would defeat the ability to fold the handle into the upright/vertical storage position.

    One reason I stick with the Super Recycler is because of that option.
    When I put my 36" walk behind in the trailer, I roll the SR4 right up behind it, flip the handle upright, and close the gate - it just fits. The mower would have to go in sideways with a typical mower handle that stays extended in the mowing position.
    I like my way better. (and these mowers really are pretty nice for the money)


    By the way, it's also about the only decent quality mower left that allows side discharging. I even looked at Hondas, and none of them can side discharge.
    I'm not talking about the crappy Recyclers sold at Home Depot. The Super Recycler has an aluminum deck and heavier wheel assemblies with grease fittings - it's a much better mower than a Recycler.
    Even the commercial mowers have done away with the ability to side discharge. Must be nice to not need to have options.
  4. sjessen

    sjessen LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Knoxville, Tn
    Messages: 5,503

    OakNut, I had several Super Recyclers and thought they were good units and did a good job though the Hondas seemed to leave a bit crisper cut. Do they come with a mulching/gator blade now?
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  5. OakNut

    OakNut LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I don't think so. I tipped one over today to see if the underside of the deck remained unchanged and I think it had the standard blade without "notches" - same as the one I started out with about 8 years ago.
    I bought a second one about 5 years ago - identical except it has the Honda engine. (my first one has a Briggs)

    The one I'm looking at is the $499 ($50 off) model that has the Chinese "Toro" engine. The model with the Honda engine is $549. ($50 off)
    I'm not sure which to get. The rational part of my brain sez "pay the extra $50 for the Honda engine", but the realistic side sez, "you're broke and can't even afford the $499 mower!" LOL

    I really wasn't all that impressed with the Honda engine and preferred the mower with the Briggs to it.
    I'll probably flip a coin. :)

    I know everyone raves about Honda mowers in general, but every one I looked at feels awkward and heavy, whereas the Toro is very light and ROLLS WITH EASE as opposed to having that "dragging" feeling with a Honda - like the wheels aren't rolling freely due to the self propel mechanism.
    Screw that - I want EASY. I like that I can "one hand" my SR4 back and forth whether it's running or not - it's just a much simpler unit all around.
    Then there's the lack of side discharge on Honda. I don't side discharge often, but sometimes I have no choice and for that reason, Honda is "out".
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  6. OakNut

    OakNut LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I ended up getting the mower with the Honda engine.
    I called the service guys and asked for their thoughts on the two engines and decided to spend the extra $50 for the Honda powered mower.

    Got three of the Super Recyclers now. Running out of room.
    Gonna need to build a "bunk" so I can store one mower over another one in my garage! LOL!
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  7. OakNut

    OakNut LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I was looking forward to starting my season tomorrow.

    200% chance of soaking rain all day - then snow on Tuesday.

  8. smitts961

    smitts961 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Feeling the same here. Most of My lawns went from almost zero growth a week ago, to 5-6 inches tall now with the 4 70 degree days we just had. And now I don't know how much mowing will get done this week. Worst part about this job, having to work with the weather!
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  9. OakNut

    OakNut LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Well, it's Tuesday - and there's about an inch of snow out there - and it's still snowing.

    They said the roads were too warm for it to stick, yet there's snow on the road as well.

    Do I just raise the deck and cut the tips off the grass that's sticking out above the snow?
  10. Bumpmaster

    Bumpmaster LawnSite Fanatic
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    I am oot here mowing. Just use the blower first an clear the snow off of lawns, then get to work.

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