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What are average hourly rates?

Discussion in 'Bidding, Estimating and Pricing' started by Michael Smiley, Dec 5, 2019.

  1. GRANTSKI

    GRANTSKI LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,028

    So how long total / $ per man hours ? I always felt it’s ridiculous (no offense) using a ztr and 3-4 guys on small lawn routes - you are just tripping over each other & adding to windshield time.
    But I guess your pricing makes up for it.
     
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  2. sjessen

    sjessen LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Knoxville, Tn
    Messages: 20,419

    Crews work well for clusters of residential. Onesies, not so much.
     
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  3. kemco

    kemco LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,135

    I guess small is a subjective term. On average we cut 30 a day. Not all that size of course. And some streets we cut multiple properties in a row. I know many crews do better than us on residential. When we are full swing we are grossing around $6k a week. A 5 day work week. We rarely go overtime unless we are behind due to rain. I'm getting old LOL and I'm concentrating on building our chem side more anyway. The 70 hour work weeks are now long gone. Of course it's a bell curve of gross receipts during the summer. How does that gross compare to what y'all are doing? Again I know many that do a lot better than us. As well as those that don't do as well as far as gross.
     
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    Michael Smiley

    Michael Smiley LawnSite Member
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    Btw kemco, I started a conversation with you about the property address.
     
  5. BigJlittleC

    BigJlittleC LawnSite Fanatic
    from Chicago
    Messages: 7,702

    I'm not happy if the mowing average drops below $80 per hour much happier around $100 per hour. Minimum charge is $30 which covers 15 minutes total job time 10 for work 5 for drive.

    Landscaping is usually in the $100-$150 range.

    I'll add I'm solo and in a high cost of living area doing small inner city properties.
     
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  6. Jake the grass guy

    Jake the grass guy LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 444

    im solo and i shoot for 80$/hour for mowing.. breaks down to 20$/15min and i have a 40$ minimum. works well for me.
     
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  7. ggb6259

    ggb6259 LawnSite Senior Member
    from USA
    Messages: 283

    Solo- $60/hr.
     
  8. TPendagast

    TPendagast LawnSite Fanatic
    Male
    Messages: 17,231

    I was getting $80/hr in the early 2000s on average for mowing
    But I was BIDDING $42/hr back then

    Reason being ZTRs were relatively newish at the time and my production rates were based on wall behinds with sulkies and three wheel riders.

    as more people bought ZTRs and “caught on” it wasn’t so easy to make fast money on mowing

    average is $60
    An hour

    you can get better hourly average on smaller lawns on tighter routes with minimums

    example you can do 20 each $30 minimum lawns in an 8 hour day - average $75 an hour solo

    but bigger lawns at $60 an hour and more travel time , you’re lucky to average 60
     
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  9. sjessen

    sjessen LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Knoxville, Tn
    Messages: 20,419

    [QUOTE="TPendagast, post: 6130092, member: 71586"

    you can get better hourly average on smaller lawns on tighter routes with minimums

    example you can do 20 each $30 minimum lawns in an 8 hour day - average $75 an hour solo

    but bigger lawns at $60 an hour and more travel time , you’re lucky to average 60[/QUOTE]
    This has been my experience as well.
     
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  10. Gus McGee

    Gus McGee LawnSite Member
    Messages: 197

    Residential or commercial? If we are talking residential our mowing crews are lucky if they average 45 - 50 per man hour. That is with efficient routes and productive crews.

    Competition is abundant and prices are in the toilet for mowing in my area. We make money off of mowing but profit per job is low. I don't consider mowing a big money maker, but it is steady revenue and ties into everything, advertising, customer acquisition, higher profit work, etc.
     
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