What are y’all charging to install pansies and violas?

Discussion in 'Landscape Maintenance' started by Hotty Toddy, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. phasthound

    phasthound LawnSite Fanatic
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    This is your best post ever! LMAO! :laugh:
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  2. ArTurf

    ArTurf LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Ark
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    Hate to tell you but your class 4 license doesn't cover planting, it's a different one, Landscape Contractor I think. More $$$$
  3. TPendagast

    TPendagast LawnSite Fanatic
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    No doubt

    should get pinned
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    Hotty Toddy

    Hotty Toddy LawnSite Senior Member
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    They are different, but both from the Arkansas State Plant Board. It’s a little more expensive, I think, than the applicators license but not much. I just meant amongst all the license fees, I’m not sure if I’ll keep the pesticide license or not. I didn’t use it much this year.
  5. wildstarblazer

    wildstarblazer LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I've never heard of needing a landscaping license to plant. That's absurd. And charging extra for it is absurd too. That should be included with your hourly pricing derived from your overhead.
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    Hotty Toddy

    Hotty Toddy LawnSite Senior Member
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    In Arkansas you need a landscaping contractor’s license if you plant trees, woody shrubs and perennials. You wouldn’t need one to plant annuals. It’s $150 per year.
  7. Chilehead

    Chilehead LawnSite Silver Member
    Male, from Stockbridge, GA
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    Though some will disagree with this, I actually support it, here's why.....
    Look at every other skilled trade--plumbers, electricians, HVAC techs, carpenters, home inspectors, automotive mechanics, etc. They all have to go through formal training (an apprenticeship) in order to be licensed in their respective fields. This is due to the technical nature of their jobs, and in order to prove competency (to avoid mistakes). Why should landscaping and/or grounds maintenance be any different, especially when one considers that employees in these fields are working with living organisms (i.e. plant, turf, trees)? A sad fact in my neck of the woods is that about 50% of the work I see my competitors doing--from maintenance to design/build to irrigation--looks like crap. This tarnishes the image of the industry, making it appear like "anyone can do it with no training"...oh, wait--anyone can.:rolleyes: This is no less than unprofessional. This is also why we as landscapers have some of the lowest gross hourly rates when compared to other skilled trades. You see, if all current college kids, illegal aliens, and non-insured wannabes were required to have professional licensure (via an apprenticeship) or face heavy fines, they wouldn't even try to to get into this field. The sheer amount of available work would go up (demand), the amount of landscapers properly licensed and operating would go down (scarcity of supply), and the gross hourly wage would be able to go up accordingly. Additionally, one would see a more constant stream of competent work industry-wide because an apprenticeship program would substantiate/provide competent training. This would add to an image of professionalism.
    Sorry for hijacking this thread, but had to make this comment because it's what I believe our industry needs. I FOR ONE am tired of seeing Joe College buy a brand new lawn maintenance rig with federal student loan money, lowball my entire territory with an asnine $15.00/hour gross rate, and then sell everything off to a pawn shop when he can't handle this business by July of his first season. These people need to be eradicated LEGALLY from our industry, and it starts with professional licensure. Okay, I'm done...back to quoting pansy install costs.:cool:
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  8. phasthound

    phasthound LawnSite Fanatic
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    Chilehead, those are all good points! One thing that is missing in this scenario is the enforcement of the regulations.
  9. Mac-s Lawn & Snow

    Mac-s Lawn & Snow LawnSite Senior Member
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    In Minnesota the Dept of Ag has a nurseyman's license. It is required to purchase nursery products wholesale from local nurseries. Many hardscape suppliers will require this before they give you wholesale pricing. The license starts at $150 and requires nothing more than writing them a check every year

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