What do you think about the design?

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by scenicexcellence, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. scenicexcellence

    scenicexcellence LawnSite Member
    Messages: 78

    this s a design i have drawn up for a customer.

    i am pricing this out for them.

    These are the specs

    4250 block
    4"x12"x8" and 4"x12"x16"
    H x L x D H x L x D

    There are three sets of stairs

    one set 9 foot run and 6 feet high 8 inch steps with 1' tread depth 9 stairs

    one set 3 foot run and 2 feet high 8 inch steps with 1' tread depth 3 stairs

    one set 6 foot run and 4 feet high 8 inch steps with 1' tread depth 6 stairs

    I will be making these as stairs not as landings

    one wall 110 foot long 4 feet high

    one wall 120 foot long 4 feet high

    one patio surround 25' by 15' by 1' high (i am not doing the patio stones as they are getting stamped concrete)

    one patio surround 12' by 20' by 2' high (same as first patio for the stones)

    I have to clear out the whole hill of debris and weeds. The hill will take 3 days to clean up and prep for wall trenches and patios

    still pricing the job for them. i have an idea of what i am charging but want to go over the numbers a few more times.

    So look at it and let me know what you guys think about the design and if you think anythings could be changed.

  2. PatriotLandscape

    PatriotLandscape LawnSite Bronze Member
    from MA
    Messages: 1,209

    it is a good looking design. What is their budget?
  3. scenicexcellence

    scenicexcellence LawnSite Member
    Messages: 78

    That is the thing they didn't give me a budget. They asked me what things would cost todo something with the back yard as they want to put a pool in. I tol them just for one wall 98 ft by 4 ft would be 15 grand supply and install. I showed them two designs this one and another one. i told them this one of the two would be cheaper as the time to install is way shorter because the other one had alot of curves and circles.

    I also told them that they could go upwards of 100,000 depending on material they want me to use.

    I am estimating this job at $49,550 this price does not include the patio bricks. they want stamped concrete. This price does include arbors over the stairs though, made with cedar wood. the thing that sux is how big of an area that is still left after i do this project behind it. There will still be like another 50 feet. I guess that will be next years project. another couple walls and couple patios again.

    I tried to convince them to get a waterfall from the top of the hill then to river down to the walls and waterfall through the walls, right down to 0 foot of elevation, they didn't go for it.
  4. scenicexcellence

    scenicexcellence LawnSite Member
    Messages: 78

    No other opinions? or suggestions?
  5. PerfiCut L&L

    PerfiCut L&L LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 458

    Design looks prety good. I would probably consider changing a few things. The upper patio with the chairs, perhaps making it recessed, you wont have to bring in that much base to build it up and it will look just as nice. Also, I would probably give both patios a rounded shape of some sort instead of squared. Just my opinion. Hard to tell without knowing the what the rest of thouse, and property looks like.

    We are right int he middle of doing puting in a 130' long by 4' high wall right now. Your price may be a little high for this job, but again, without seeing the property, access, and how much labor would be needed its difficult to say.

    Good luck
  6. scenicexcellence

    scenicexcellence LawnSite Member
    Messages: 78

    how much are you charging for the wall you are doing?
  7. KAT_Ayanami

    KAT_Ayanami LawnSite Member
    Messages: 41

    Looks good, just make sure that the plan view design fits with the desired dimensions.
    Specially on the steps, make sure that they will not go so far back or forth that the patio would need to be moved or relocated.

    Other than that, its great that you know how to do 3D models, owners fall for them really easily since they are unable to visualize by themselves.

    The only question is.... if you are able to design like that, why your web is such an eyesore?? (this is a honest question).
  8. Junior M

    Junior M LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,607

    if they want to put a pool in you need to find out if once you finish this project if a backhoe or something can still get into the backyard.
  9. scenicexcellence

    scenicexcellence LawnSite Member
    Messages: 78

    My website is like that becuase i am limited to what i can do on my website. i cannot put html on it because of the package i have. i will be upgrading that in the nex month or so.

    The pool will be in front of the wall and yes they will be able to get a backhoe in there still. if they do the pool first i won't be able to get in with the mini to excavate and the skidsteer to clean up.
  10. ANC Stone Creations

    ANC Stone Creations LawnSite Member
    Messages: 160

    How much do the blocks cost?

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