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I've made a post about ALB or whatever other boring beetle has been destroying droves of wood near me recently. I showed pictures of 40 yr old Black Cherries I've been taking down and burning, plus others that need to go.

I didn't get a clear picture of one large area previously. Both hardwoods and pines are getting massacred all over. I'm seeing classic larvae tracks all over too. Oak to cherry to sitting wood. Even 2x4's lying next to infested wood piles.

Is there another disease/pest attacking all species? Noticed this here years and years ago before landscaping, but never this bad.
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I am very surprised this issue appears to go on unnoticed by most. I see so much of this devastation everyday and cant help but imagine what these places will look like in another 2-5 years. This is frightening.
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I am very surprised this issue appears to go on unnoticed by most. I see so much of this devastation everyday and cant help but imagine what these places will look like in another 2-5 years. This is frightening.
I don't know if you are in my area or not. It is very well noticed here. This is a very well traveled stretch of road and side roads that are toast! Before I ever did anything aside from mow my own lawn, I remember asking a landscaper what was going on (different but connected area miles away) near the water where I used to go on 8 mile hikes with my dog. It was a tree graveyard. I seemed to be the only one noticing. Mostly hardwoods. We're talking peak strength Oaks. Diseased and fallen trees EVERYWHERE. Obviously ALB now from what I learned, but that's only part of it. I mean these are mainly pines?
Maybe they are not limited to just hardwoods?? After all, they only landed here in mid 90's. Actually my hometown was one of the first to eradicate the ALB. Brooklyn, Staten... No more, or at least they did at the time. Destroyed a freaking ton of trees. Had to be done. I feel bad for customers. 8 k take downs are necessary. probably more. we're talking 36 inch diameter and 70 feet tall just rotting with holes everywhere. Best is, the arborists come and trim and don't even mention it. I took off and burned a waste high 400 lb Oak limb (only a part. neighbor's tree and piercing the hedges) that was INFESTED. I had to cut the 5 foot section into 3 pieces to be able to lift it. I thought the homeowner had the work done because I saw cherry picker there 4 months prior. Ended up being the neighbors having work done. They called me and I explained.
I'm no tree disease expert, but this is really bad. There's 5 miles of road that was just 5 years ago, beautiful green pine and various other species. It is now 80 percent dead orange and there are areas that look like it was cleared... At first I thought some sort of toxin in the rain, but It's not effecting nearby trees that are a quarter mile away. Again, hardwood and evergreen.
Also, they are definitely marking and felling, but this bs beaurocratic and you know what town is probably thinking taking 20 trees down at a time and leaving them there without chipping or burning is too much clearing....
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I am very surprised this issue appears to go on unnoticed by most. I see so much of this devastation everyday and cant help but imagine what these places will look like in another 2-5 years. This is frightening.
Oh and this isn't even a bad spot. It's much worse in other parts.
I guess what I meant to say is I don't hear anyone talking about it. I'm in Manorville, I moved here for the trees and they're either dying or being taken down for condos. 🤬
Oh and this isn't even a bad spot. It's much worse in other parts.
You have gypsy moths?
It sounds like multiple problems
It wouldn't surprise me if some is weather or cultural practices too
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You have gypsy moths?
It sounds like multiple problems
It wouldn't surprise me if some is weather or cultural practices too
We had a few year period probably in the late mid to late 90s when they were a big deal. Barely see them or their nests anymore. Oh yea, I agree. Definitely more than one thing going on, but I was at 2 yards today that have the exact same species, one is actually about 120 feet south, and 18 feet below. Aside from the firewood I inspected, there were no signs aside from one lead of a 3 leader is rotting with signs of borers. All of the other trees are healthy as can be. 30 inc Beech, Giants, pines at the neighbors... The north side of that road and about 12 miles east is where I notice all of the deciduous trees just destroyed. No evergreens near there like the pines that are dead as disco. Also that's the side where they are marking and clearing at an absolutely useless rate. Zero point in taking 20 trees down and leaving them there, chipped or not. They'll all be laying again within 3 monthesm I'm assuming
We had a few year period probably in the late mid to late 90s when they were a big deal. Barely see them or their nests anymore. Oh yea, I agree. Definitely more than one thing going on, but I was at 2 yards today that have the exact same species, one is actually about 120 feet south, and 18 feet below. Aside from the firewood I inspected, there were no signs aside from one lead of a 3 leader is rotting with signs of borers. All of the other trees are healthy as can be. 30 inc Beech, Giants, pines at the neighbors... The north side of that road and about 12 miles east is where I notice all of the deciduous trees just destroyed. No evergreens near there like the pines that are dead as disco. Also that's the side where they are marking and clearing at an absolutely useless rate. Zero point in taking 20 trees down and leaving them there, chipped or not. They'll all be laying again within 3 monthesm I'm assuming
I suspect something like a freeze or flood in addition to other things like insects also drought damage can be delayed in ultimate decline
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Here's some information on upcoming issues with the Leyland cypress
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Here's some information on upcoming issues with the Leyland cypress
That's funny, and appreciataed Hort. I was just looking for something that was causing 4 Hollywood Juniper in the front and back of house that are browning in certain areas. At the property now, but only got here yesterday and non stop phone calls. I'm including the the Leyland Cypress I topped last year (almost to the week). Large leads too. I did about 8 all together with Corona saw. They're looking great. Only one cut doesn't look nice and clean still. Trying to diagnose The Hollywood (other species of juniper not affected seemingly). Deer are even more out of control this year. So the Cypress actually got banged up over winter up to 4.5 feet plus the huge topped sections. Lot of stress... They're eating some of my ferns as they curl open. St. John's Wort, one type of Holly, really tough juniper shrubs, and Huechera.

I told the customer it looks almost like over watering, but they are in different sections and I'm turning irrigation on today... There's a serious grub problem which will be handled in about a month, but seems strange that all else would be fine. Moles/voles maybe?

They got the place last year and we're going to renovate the beds this year.

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Voles will girdle stems or trunks they eat roots too
Maybe winter burn or cold if that ones juniper is more exposed
Check for insects too
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Hinoki are also shedding old leaves/ needles now
I read that the Covid vaccine has actually prevented tons of insects from dying off like they should and now they are wreaking havoc on all kinds of plants and animals.
We’re seeing an outbreak of Phomopsis Tip Blight on some of the old varieties of Juniper here.
There is a Cornell newsletter that came out recently describing decline in trees due to the the past years weather patterns. There have been a lot of cultural issues lately.
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There is a Cornell newsletter that came out recently describing decline in trees due to the the past years weather patterns. There have been a lot of cultural issues lately.
Can be a combination of issues too both cultural practices,weather and disease/insect issues
There is a Cornell newsletter that came out recently describing decline in trees due to the the past years weather patterns. There have been a lot of cultural issues lately.
If you can find it online please share. I'll see what I can find in the mean time.
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This was the Branching out newsletter. I am not a subscriber but this was given to me by my local supplier.

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