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What engines to avoid?

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by JaysLawnServices, Jul 7, 2013.

  1. 9ball1018

    9ball1018 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 108

    If looking for a 1/2 ton I drive a titan and have a 175000 miles and yet to have a engine or trans problem. I am blown away by the engine and trans in this truck. I did replace the rear end gears. Bearing went bad and I replace with a Detroit limited slip chunk.
  2. ProStreetCamaro

    ProStreetCamaro LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,289

    Under powered pig. Been there done that with a 4.6 and 5.4 turd.
  3. ProStreetCamaro

    ProStreetCamaro LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,289

    Our 98 K2500 is all original and it has towed its entire life and plowed in the winters. Trans fluid is still original. The 4L80E in the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks is FAR superior to any trans anybody has ever used other than the allison (yet again a trans GM uses on the diesel trucks).

    The 4L60E is hit or miss. Some people have decent luck with them and others dont. The 6L80E in the newer 1/2 ton trucks are much better than the 4L60E and the gear spread is perfect. 1st gear is granny gear and is not used unless you select the tow haul mode.

    I would never own anything other than a GM truck. We went down the ford path and got burned on every single ford truck we ever had. The gm trucks have been very reliable and had more power than any of the ford trucks we have owned (5.0, 5.8, 4.9 I6, 4.6 and a 5.4). Out of those engines the 4.9 I6 was far superior when it came to towing. They were slow as molasses but due to the huge bore and long stroke they were torque monsters. The F-1shitty we had with the 4.9 only had 3.08 gears and it towed our landscape trailer and our car trailer with a car on it like it was nothing even going up over mountains. All the rest struggled very badly. The E-250 was the best one out of the bunch. It had the 4.9 and 4.10 gears. But the engine sludged up and lost oil pressure at 60,000 miles so we replaced the engine. That was the only issue that van gave us (and that was a huge issues obviously). All the others had engine issues along with many other issues such as brake failures, trans problems, electrical problems etc etc etc.
  4. GVL LLC

    GVL LLC LawnSite Member
    Messages: 154

    thats what happens when you buy gas trucks to do a diesel trucks job.
  5. nismothunder

    nismothunder LawnSite Member
    Messages: 53

    Theres not a thing wrong with the 5.4.

    What people are telling you is the wrong info.

    The only Tritons that have problems with the plugs sticking in the are the early year 3v models. Like 04-07.

    Buy what you want, but those vortech are a pain too work on compaired too the Ford.
  6. nismothunder

    nismothunder LawnSite Member
    Messages: 53

    Or when you buy a 5.3 1500 you get a crapper of an axle (10 bolt) and tranny. While in the 5.4 Ford you get a 9.75 and a decent tranny.

    I tow with a 5.4 1/2 ton 2v (02, PI heads) and it does the job a lot better then 5.3s. A lot. Even when the Gm is set up compairable.

    The GM might ride a little better which contributes too the whole "I forgot I had a trailer back there thing" That a lot of GM owners like too tell.
  7. Dually00-00

    Dually00-00 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 181

    I've done my fair share of wrenching on my vehicles and have never thought that Ford was eaiser to work on . Often thought Ford has to reinvent the wheel making things complex when they don't need too. For instance the 5.4 Ford design is alot more sophisticated than the Chevy 5.3.Ford has OHC,3 valves per cylinder etc. Thats as biased as I can be owning both Ford and GM.
  8. nismothunder

    nismothunder LawnSite Member
    Messages: 53

    Not looking too argue and I will agree with you but the OP is asking about the older 2v 5.4's. Not the ones with the 3 valve heads, Which it seems that everyone is saying are bad.

    In the era trucks he is looking at, the Gm products have new model problems. By the time the First new model Gm rolled out, the Ford had 2 model years out already.
  9. Dually00-00

    Dually00-00 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 181

    Guess it's hit or miss no matter what you buy.
  10. ProStreetCamaro

    ProStreetCamaro LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,289

    Are you on crack? The vortec is extremely easy to work on. I can do a tune up in 30 minutes. Pop the hood on one Everything is wide open and easy to get to. I shudder when I pop the hood on my parents expedition. Even the oil change is a royal pain. The filter is a ***** to get to. You can't even see the plugs.

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