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Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by pete scalia, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 960

    Let's brain storm some ideas for our own benefit and the benefit of the manufacturers that read this board. Not on specific brands but what improvements would you like to see made to fixtures that will improve the usability and performance and make your life a bit easier.

    I am really full of piss and vinegar tonight.
  2. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,186

    Ease of serviceability is always a hot button for me. On some fixtures when you remove shrouds it causes so much wear and tear on the rubber o rings that I seem to have to replace them sooner than later.

    I like how Unique includes all the necessary lenses with their Odyssey fixtures. This saves me having to make an additional run to the store should I decide a particular fixture may need a louver or a blue lense. I wish this was something included in all directional spots or floods/wells.

    In ground wells are always a problem. No matter how much silicone I encase around the connections it seems I am always having to replace the corroded connectors after about 2 years. whoever figuires this one out will probably corner the market on wells.
  3. pete scalia

    pete scalia LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 960

    Tim do you mean MR wells?
  4. bmwsmity

    bmwsmity LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Ohio
    Messages: 276

    Tim, if you are using rubber-boot wells, such as Kichler's 15488, you may want to make sure they aren't filling up with water, hence causing excessive corrosion.

    I've noticed these are terrible for this, and I often have to replace bulbs because they fill up so much that they short the bulb out. The only way to fix it is to poke a hole in the bottom of the boot.
  5. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,180

    for you guys using MR wells have you not tried a sealed unit like the Copper moon, Kim mini vault or the focus ? I am lighting a flag pole next month and I am going to use the kims in the turf. These things are TANKS and highly adjustable. Also they are large enough to hopefully eliminate the hotspots I hate so much.

    As for fixture improvment... I think this has to go on specific fixtures. Just to name a few

    Cast bullet... O ring issues constantly
    Kichler 15384 line... why are the leads so short and such a small gauge ?
    Cast tree light... the only tree light we use but sould use a shorter version or an uplight version with the same flange to use the tree hardware with.

    Kichler 15443 paths... nut in top of the shade easily breaks off.

    This is really nit picking tho. More so than fixtures I would like to see some REAL working space in a trans... make the thing 3 inches taller already and give us 6 inches below the terminal block!

    Have you tried digging your hole deeper and filling it with pea gravel to help drain the water away ?
  6. Eden Lights

    Eden Lights LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 805

    MR Fixture:

    Infinite adjustment knuckle that locks down, such as the Lumiere 203

    Conduit style nut that can be easily adjusted and locked down, but doesn't seize with time because it's too big.

    Complete glare control with various hoods, shields, caps, louvers and etc. Such as the HK Lighting group line.

    Large opening split ground stake that can be hammered in the ground.

    Must accept multiple lenses, louvers, and etc.

    Excellent Finish

    Socket can be serviced easily.

    Stem wire way is waterproof enough to turn upside down without water entry.

    Retail under $100, any ideas??
  7. Eden Lights

    Eden Lights LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 805

    Joey, I was checking out the Stellar from the gutter mount thread and was wondering? What's up with the lock and load socket? It's still all over the website. Is it still being used and in what fixtures?
  8. bmwsmity

    bmwsmity LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from Ohio
    Messages: 276

    No, not inside the plastic part of the well...inside the actual rubber boot that holds the lamp. They are "sealed"....at least from the bottom. The problem is the seal around the lamp itself is not water-tight.
  9. NiteTymeIlluminations

    NiteTymeIlluminations LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 367

    hey wait a second there proscapes!!! You reading my email newsletter???

    quote in reference to kim lite vault in my september newsletter

    This light is perfectly built for installations within grassy areas where mowers would normally destroy the light. Or can be used near streets and sidewalks where you fear car or golf cart traffic. From residential to commercial properties to resorts, anywhere you need a well light, the Lite Vault is the well light of choice.
  10. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,933

    NO MORE Lock and Load. We had to give up on it. We have a fix for it so for those who have them in the field and have a problem we can eaisily replace the top portion that is re worked. It was an awesome concept but they just dont hold up over time in certain environments. Where on the website did you notice it? I need to have it removed.

    Joey D.

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