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What is a going rate for an acre?

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by GreenHor7, Jan 9, 2008.

  1. crazy4green

    crazy4green LawnSite Member
    Messages: 50

    charge what you market calls for and get as much as you can. remember any callbacks or problems on lawn are going to take that much longer and that much more money lost if these occur.
  2. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,505

    When i went from 52 inch walkbehinds to ZTR a number of years ago, i had people complaining that i was getting the job done too fast and thought I should make less money because I wasnt there as long. My responce was well I see your point, but does your boss charge less because he purchased a faster computer?
  3. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,505

    Just so i am clear you aredoing granular fert and spraying broadleaf, or are you running all liquid w/ broadleaf?
  4. humble1

    humble1 LawnSite Silver Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,505

    Check your PM
  5. Fert33

    Fert33 LawnSite Member
    Male, from Central Pa
    Messages: 133

    It might not be a true statement for everyone, but around here we do have some customers that will spend the money. I depends on what neighborhood that your in I guess. But as others have said. It would be different if I were in your position, and pre ordering for the season. I am leaving where I have been and going on my own. It makes my prices a little different. I can't take a loss. and suggestions you have for me would be appreciated.
  6. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,643

    I have a 6 app program. the 1st and 5th are all liquid. 2,3&4 are granular and spot spraying weeds. If they are new sign up and they have Dallisgrass I set them up for that as their 6th. I spray the lawn 3 times a week apart but charge one application price for this app. Weed Control Only.
  7. rcreech

    rcreech Sponsor
    Male, from OHIO
    Messages: 6,115

    Worse case....if you pay $18.00 a bag for fert (which is very high) and and it costs you $15 an acre for broadleaf control (which is very high), your cost is $64.00 an acre plus fuel and equipment etc.

    If you are charging 160-180 an acre and your cost is 64 (which is on the very high side) you are still making over 100 per app.

    Not saying you shouldn't charge this....just don't think you have to worry about "taking a loss"!

    That is great money!

    I "reward" my larger customers with a better price/1000. I am not there as long and I can make more $$$$/hour when on larger lawns due to less driving and larger volume.
  8. turf hokie

    turf hokie LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,749

    I have to agree to disagree with you. I wont do anything for less than 160/A anymore. If I was charging what you are I would consider it a loss as well. However, my market will bear these numbers and my cost of living is probably signifcantly higher than yours, at least it feels like I pay a ton of money to live where I do.

    Reason for charging this is that I have figured my direct costs per acre to be around $100 for a pre/post/fert. These costs would be fert w/pre-emergent, broadleaf and labor. Anything less than that drops my GP to a point that wont cover my overheads plus my profit. But my overheads may be higher than some.
  9. rcreech

    rcreech Sponsor
    Male, from OHIO
    Messages: 6,115

    I see where you are coming from also, but a true loss is when you are in the RED and didn't make a profit! The fella said he would lose money if he didn't charge $160-180 and that just doesn't sound right to me!

    I know that it is much tougher to make a living in NY then in OH! I am a very effecient person and don't need much...but I make an awesome living!

    If wish I could charge your guys prices. I go over about 550 acres of lawn/year.

    You stated your costs are $100/acre. That seems very high! Just curious how you come to this!

    One question: If it costs you $50-60/acre in supplies (fert and chem), how do you come up with the other $40/acre? I guess what I am saying is...if you are doing 10 acres a day, what costs you $400 over and above your fert and chem?

    My overhead is very low...I own all my equipment, don't pay bldg rent, prepay for all my supplies and do all my own bookwork but my mom is going to do it next year (YEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!).

    At the end of the day, we all have to know our costs and make a good profit!
  10. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,643

    Rodney, Are you Inc. or just self employed sole proprietor? Payroll taxes, workmans comp and the cost of having those done and quarterly reports done cost me a fortune every month. It makes a big difference.

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