I am about sick to my stomach. I have a friend of mine who is in the same industry as myself but works for a very large organization. he is the kind of guy that you don't run across all the time. A top notch person who believes in doing things right. Of course, his company is the total opposite. I will not mention any company names as to not start any ripples on his end, but we were sitting around looking at some of the work that he has designed. Needless to say he is a very tallented designer. He showed my a picture of a project that had a patio with that was built by their hardscape crew. the construction process was to remove the sod from the yard and to skim enought soil off the surface as to obtain the correct pitch for the patio. They then preceded to dump stone dust screenings on that "clay" soil to a depth of around 4" and run a plate compactor. after running the plate compactor they laid the pavers down with edge restraint and swept the joints. No, they did not excavate down and compact crusher run in lifts to 6inches. No they did not use a geo tex fabric between the sub base and the crusher. No they did not use a max of 1" of c-33 sand. they removed sod and put stone dust screenings on it and was done. it made me sick to my stomach to think of how they were basically building a matchstick house of pavers. I am out there training myself on the correct procedures, doing it the "right" way and loosing sleep over it if i doubt what i have done and these crack heads are pooring screenings on the ground and dropping pavers. they say that you reep what you sow, i hope i have a front row seat when their crops come to market. and to boot, they are the "Platinum Prefered Vendor" for this retirement community. Oh by the way, they don't charge a cheaper price b/c of these practices. they still charge top dollar. I didn't even have the stomach left to ask what their construction practices were for retaining walls. oh well, thanks for listening to my rant.