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currently running 13 walker mowers and 2 gravely z260 in the fleet and looking for more cost efficient mowers to run in the fleet spending way to much money on repairs
what is the best stand on mower out there
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I run Wright Standers. I LOVE THEM!!!!!!!! They are by far the most popular stand-on Unit on the Market.
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Not to start a fight.... although I'm sure it will......
Why do you think so? Price... ease of maintenance.... cut quality.... comfort? They just look to me anyway, not a very efficient design. I would love to get one as I have great Scag dealer and love my TC. Just not impressed with the design of the stander.
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great dane surfer, more comfort, cheaper, rut friendly, built like a tank and did i say cheaper!
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i drove one of the scags around and it was way better than it looked, surprisingly so, and the velocity deck is one to be envious about.
all that said, we run wright standers and they have been nearly flawless and way more compact. the new ones have it even better so check the 2010 models. we have a new one sitting waiting for grass. it has spring platform now too, and even stronger frame in which the old one was plenty strong
all that said, we run wright standers and they have been nearly flawless and way more compact. the new ones have it even better so check the 2010 models. we have a new one sitting waiting for grass. it has spring platform now too, and even stronger frame in which the old one was plenty strong
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While the Walkers probably are more prone to needing little repairs than other less-complex designs, are you going to be giving up capabilities and cut quality you need? The standers can't do high volume bagging, and I've heard nowhere near the praise for the Wright cut that you hear about Walkers.
I can see the idea of using them in place of Walkers though, since they are good on small lots with a lot of turns to make. If you're using the Walkers on small tight lots I they may work well. But if you have to bag everything you might ask users how they compare doing that first. I personally hate side bagging. They're also not getting lots of feedback on mulching ability, though I'm not sure if that's because everyone discharges with them or what.
It seems the Gravelys are the sort of machine one would use on wide open areas for chop/drop high speed mowing. I doubt the standers would be any huge improvement there, and they might be less efficient in some ways. And again, you can't hang a high capacity bagger system on them like you can a ZTR for leaf cleanup. Also I think they are pretty solid in terms of reliability. Mine is, and they look well built and pretty simple design-wise. I wouldn't think the Wrights have any real advantage there.
Finally, a company your size may have need of the various implements the Walker has, plus midmount ZTRs can usually tow various aerators, carts, etc. You might want to consider keeping one or two of the old machines in the fleet for the uses I mentioned (high profile turf on undulating terrain needing a manicured cut, leaf cleanup, bagging grass when required, aerating, dethatching, etc) and use the standers for the more routine work.
I can see the idea of using them in place of Walkers though, since they are good on small lots with a lot of turns to make. If you're using the Walkers on small tight lots I they may work well. But if you have to bag everything you might ask users how they compare doing that first. I personally hate side bagging. They're also not getting lots of feedback on mulching ability, though I'm not sure if that's because everyone discharges with them or what.
It seems the Gravelys are the sort of machine one would use on wide open areas for chop/drop high speed mowing. I doubt the standers would be any huge improvement there, and they might be less efficient in some ways. And again, you can't hang a high capacity bagger system on them like you can a ZTR for leaf cleanup. Also I think they are pretty solid in terms of reliability. Mine is, and they look well built and pretty simple design-wise. I wouldn't think the Wrights have any real advantage there.
Finally, a company your size may have need of the various implements the Walker has, plus midmount ZTRs can usually tow various aerators, carts, etc. You might want to consider keeping one or two of the old machines in the fleet for the uses I mentioned (high profile turf on undulating terrain needing a manicured cut, leaf cleanup, bagging grass when required, aerating, dethatching, etc) and use the standers for the more routine work.
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bagging does make a huge difference, we dont bag anything but leaves, but would not want to with a stander, way too time consuming
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Ran a Toro and a Scag both were nice but really liked the ride of the scag and the ease of operating it better. It seemed more stable on a incline but it did have a weight on it and I think it was just one weight and it handled my weight (225) just fine.
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anybody have ball park pricing on the scag v-ride 48"? Going to take a look at them next week. Thanks.
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Does the Scag flip up to become a walk behind as nice as the grandstand does ? I really liked the grandstand but the Toro dealer is out of his mind. The Scag looks really nice. Looking for a 36"
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all i know is if you can find a scag, and its on your list of considerations to buy. Do it now cause you won't be finding them in the dealers much longer. I talked to my rep and he said they can't keep of with demand. I would have my scag v ride now but can't afford it unless i get a few more accounts.
Your exactly right, Cutters in the KC area have been buying them by the 20+ unit orders. I havent seen a mower be this big of a hit in a long time! Im pulling my hair out cause I might be sold out of them by the time my open house gets here.
And to answer the previous question, What is going to set them apart from everyone elses. Is #1 ofcourse Scags cut quality and build quality. Dont get me wrong, I also love my wrights, we have sold many many units with little complants. The scag is going to be a hit because of scags allready great rep in the commercial market. And unlike some other companies (no names mentioned) they have a great price on them.
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yes, the 2010 units of wright are great, but have tried boht the scag and toro. we stuck with wright, but both the others were very nice, the scag did handle better though and felt more stable and easy to get into places.
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I have used Wright Standers for years. I have 4-52",3-36", and 1-32". They are very well built, great cut, and have very low maintenance to them. I would stay away from the Great Dane's. I have tried them and know many that have purchased them for the price. They have had problems and don't cut as well plus, their 52" has no trimming capacity (deck is even with rear tires). John Deere and Gravely are the same.
I can't say much about the Scag or Toro. They are fairly new to the market. And you know the new products always have problems, when they first come out. Good Luck and welcome to Lawnsite bflograssman. Good to see some large companies on here.:waving:
I can't say much about the Scag or Toro. They are fairly new to the market. And you know the new products always have problems, when they first come out. Good Luck and welcome to Lawnsite bflograssman. Good to see some large companies on here.:waving:
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