I know NOTHING about the subject, but.....
That don't look right!
Norm
That don't look right!
Norm
What is wrong with this picture...
Sorry for putting this in the lawn care forum, I thought it deserved to be seen. This first picture is from an actual approved planted drawing. It shows the detail of a rootball being ripped in half, then planted on top of a ground stump. Lets hear all the things which could go wrong. Mind you...this is a 'professional' drawing.
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Wow Bobby, Im surprised at you....
, Splitting the rootball!!!! Growers take great care in keeping the rootball intact, ie. burlap, twine, steel cages.....and this guy is breaking it in half..... Also, the rotting roots/stump take N from the soil.....these trees will need constant fertilization.....These are 2 other reasons off the top of my head...not to keep you in suspense....You are waiting for more??!!..Trees planted too deep, rootballs split, rotting stumps rob N, potential air pockets/sinkhole........you would be OK with this??
I hope I didnt post one of your drawings.
I hope I didnt post one of your drawings.
Not to hurt your feelings bobby, but a letter to the client has already been submitted , along with all the mentioned findings. I just thought you guys would enjoy this.
So you think a lack of N affects only leaf growth?? What do the leaves do?? Thats right you say, a process called photosynthesis, which provides food for the WHOLE plant.
I just thought you guys would enjoy this.So you think a lack of N affects only leaf growth?? What do the leaves do?? Thats right you say, a process called photosynthesis, which provides food for the WHOLE plant.
I guess that explains your poor typing skills...
The originator of the plan cannot be contacted...
Quote "While it's not pretty, textbook, or proper planting--" Doesnt this answer your own questions???
I do agree with the thought that acres of trees are growing on stumps, but you are talking about forests here. A tree, as a sapling, has a much better chance of survivng on a stump then a mature tree, taken out of a nursery, and planted there. Dont you agree??
I definately break up the roots on root bound containers, but imaging taking a B/B speciman, laying it on its side, and cutting the rootball in half, and then spreading it out over an existing stump. You cannot carefully cut open the root ball, as you have no idea what is inside, ie. where the 'major' roots are located.
Would you put a guarantee on these trees if you had planted them with this method??? The client definately wasnt briefed on the possible dangers, ie now they are wondering why the plants are doing poorly.
Quote "While it's not pretty, textbook, or proper planting--" Doesnt this answer your own questions???
I do agree with the thought that acres of trees are growing on stumps, but you are talking about forests here. A tree, as a sapling, has a much better chance of survivng on a stump then a mature tree, taken out of a nursery, and planted there. Dont you agree??
I definately break up the roots on root bound containers, but imaging taking a B/B speciman, laying it on its side, and cutting the rootball in half, and then spreading it out over an existing stump. You cannot carefully cut open the root ball, as you have no idea what is inside, ie. where the 'major' roots are located.
Would you put a guarantee on these trees if you had planted them with this method??? The client definately wasnt briefed on the possible dangers, ie now they are wondering why the plants are doing poorly.
Well does the property owner know why it went on top of a stump? Was it to replace one in a line so it had to be there to match others? Someone has to know and someone had to have a reason for it. maybe the owner didn't want to pay to have the old stump and roots completely removed so they accepted the alternative. Again, what would you have done?
No one is going to say it's proper, but again when you HAVE to do it-- well, throw in an extra dead fish and two pennies and hope for the best.
Guarantee it?
Yes-- for twice the normal price. If the h.o. insisted on the exact location or if the design required it, I would do it and say "if you want a guarantee I have to charge you more due the increased chance of it not doing well." If the property owner wants to share the risk, normal price no guarantee.
A wild sapling on a stump vs. a healthy nursery stock with a temporary hampering of a broken root ball and a human caretaker??? I'll bet on the tree with a homeowner, some TLC, and fertilizer.
How about a bareroot planting?
I had a neighor who bought (REAL cheap) some birch from a 'grower' to find the roots had not taken to the soil at ALL. He pulled the tree out and the soil literally fell apart and the roots were pretty much buc naked! Apparently grower had just transplanted into containers as bare root. Neighor planted them (4) anyway and 5 years later they are doing fine. He asked me what I thought the chances were of them surviving-- wish I knew the term "Slim Shady" back then.
To that point, IF I had to, I would take a b&b and let all the soil fall off (gently) and then plant it on top of a stump IF necessary. I've seen worse!-- like scapers leaving wire around trunks. The drawing says 'container' though if size matters to anyone. Either case, it's pretty much the same I would say.
Here's a funny pic I call "get bent". Well I think it's funny to look at.
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No one is going to say it's proper, but again when you HAVE to do it-- well, throw in an extra dead fish and two pennies and hope for the best.
Guarantee it?
Yes-- for twice the normal price. If the h.o. insisted on the exact location or if the design required it, I would do it and say "if you want a guarantee I have to charge you more due the increased chance of it not doing well." If the property owner wants to share the risk, normal price no guarantee.
A wild sapling on a stump vs. a healthy nursery stock with a temporary hampering of a broken root ball and a human caretaker??? I'll bet on the tree with a homeowner, some TLC, and fertilizer.
How about a bareroot planting?
I had a neighor who bought (REAL cheap) some birch from a 'grower' to find the roots had not taken to the soil at ALL. He pulled the tree out and the soil literally fell apart and the roots were pretty much buc naked! Apparently grower had just transplanted into containers as bare root. Neighor planted them (4) anyway and 5 years later they are doing fine. He asked me what I thought the chances were of them surviving-- wish I knew the term "Slim Shady" back then.
To that point, IF I had to, I would take a b&b and let all the soil fall off (gently) and then plant it on top of a stump IF necessary. I've seen worse!-- like scapers leaving wire around trunks. The drawing says 'container' though if size matters to anyone. Either case, it's pretty much the same I would say.
Here's a funny pic I call "get bent". Well I think it's funny to look at.
Coming from a college, that doesn't sound all that correct to me. Doesn't it all depend on where the root flair starts? I find that sometimes I have to remove soil from the tops of the root ball, because the nursery themselves have planted the tree too deep.
Also, the burlap and wire basket should not be completely removed. It supports the root ball, and in time will break down and disintegrate.
Either way, I would never plant a tree ontop of a decaying tree stump.
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