Thanks for the threads.. I think I'm going start doing the christmas lights this year, maybe do some winterizing homes like making sure the vents are closed, all the hoses are off of the hose bibbs, etc. I have 12 yrs in mech pipefitting and plumbing I learned alot on those jobs. I would like to put some of that to good use. I have really had the itching to do some direct boring it looks like it would fun to me.