I am with you, Tim. I was reading all these responses and thinking, "WTF????" No details. No mention of what size. No mention of materials cost. No mention of difficulty. That's like going to the irrigation forum and saying, "Hey guys! How much should I charge for a sprinkler system?" Huh? For WHAT sprinkler system? That's like the most ambiguous question ever. But to set the record straight - from somoene who's done quite a few pondless waterfalls over the years - there is no set price for them. And I'll have to [respectfully] disagree with Scott too. It's not really even about what you want to make either. It's about how much the customer wants to spend and how big of a water feature they want to end up with. That's really all that dictates the price. I've done really small pondless water features for as little as $1750.00 and really big ones for more than $20,000. I just show people several photos and tell them, "Well, you could go with something small and affortable like this one for a little under $2K. Or you could go with one a little more substantial like this one for around $5-$7K. Or you could go with something really elaborate like this one here for more like $20K. What size were you thinking and what is your budget for the job?" Then we go from there. If someone says, "Well, I only have a budget of no more than $1500, then I say, "Ok. Well that really won't get you much of a waterfall but let's maybe look at a nice rock bubbler feature...." If they say, "Well, I was hoping to spend no more than $5,000" Then I say, "That's a pretty reasonable budget. Here. Let me show you one we did last year that was about $5,000. Would something like this suit you?" And so on...... The other thing that can really affect the price is how much planting they want US to do around the water feature. Some people want to do all their own planting later and use up all their current coffer of money on just the water feature. Others want us to do all the planting to. So that always adds several hundred or even several thousand to the cost of the job. But it comes out looking a whole lot nicer in the end. So I always encourage our customers to spend a decent amount on planting and I show them the difference between one without much planting and one that was done with a lot of nice planting around it. It makes a big difference in the outcome. Anyway, every job is different. There's no set price on pondless waterfalls. There's no "ballpark" price on pondless waterfalls. There's no typical price. Every job is different. Every customer is different. If you're doing water features, you're in the business of selling something unique. It's not some cookie-cutter thing where you can give a set price to everyone and tell them that will get them what they want. You can't think of it like that.