Now, what would you do to get a daewoo 280 excavator stuck in a 50 x 100 x 10 ft deep hole, and also use to get a daewoo 330 excavotor stuck 50 ft away from the 280 buried with the dirt covering both tracks?
what would you do....if the daewoo 280 now has a broken hydro pump, is in a 10 x 50 x 100 hole, next to a stream, can't be repaired, and has to be left overnight, along with the 330 that is still stuck next to it 50 ft away.
Do you think the fact the ground may freeze tonight and 'lock' both the 280 and the 330 in the ground could be a problem. Also, the likilihood that the 10 ft hole the 280 is in may be filled with 8 ft of water by morning is likley, so do you think that may cause any problem also?
And yes, its wetlands. All fragmities (tall cattail like grass). It has the consitancy of jello, and that is the best way to describe it. When the machine moves, the ground moves up and down up to a inch almost 100 ft away. You can drive across it a few times, but once you break through the top layer of roots/vines/etc., it gets real soft quick........really, really quick
They are both, at best, 700 ft away from any sort of even 'stable ground'. The nearest trees are 800 ft away.
Ok time to call out the D-8's with cable winches, this is going to take a few days.
Will need at least three of them plus a wide track machine (D-6)
Use the 6 to start making a path to the 330 and get it out first. The 6 can cut a ledge so the 8 can get a cable on to the 330 and with both working it can pull it to firmer groundmight have to chain two 8's toghter if it freezes up tonight. Keep the third 8 in reseve if the other 8's start to sink
Hope it stays cold so you can get a good freeze in the ground cause to get the 280 out you need some hard ground to slide it on if the tracks arn't working. Will need to make a ramp with the swamp cat so you can winch it out and that needs to be hard. also might want to see if anybody has some drag mats around you can use them under the machines once you get them moving.
The best thing that could happen is for the ground to freeze right now!! Thats the best way to slide those babies out of there.
This is a good time to tel my horror story.
About 4 months ago........
2 of my guys were cutting grass out on our airfield and they went way to far into the marsh, of course they weren't worried about cutting the grass, they wer having fun in the mud! I wanna kill them guys to this day!! Anyway, one guy got his JD farm tractor and batwing stuck in the swamp, the other guy of course had to try to spray a rooster tail of mud on hisstuck buddy and his tractor and got himself stuck! SO the smart asses decide to get a 4 Cu. Yd. JD loader and pull them out. Well they have no commom sense at all ( the military sucks all the common sense out of 90% of these guys!) so they tried to pull both tractors and batwings out at once, they drove the loader into the ground till you couldn't see the tops of the tires!! (5' down under!!). So these guys of course now still don't use any common sense and bring another loader into the swamp to try to pull the loader that is still chained to the two tractors, with batwings ( the batwings are now also under ground!!) Loader #2 goes under about 4'!! It doesn't stop here, they try to bring our little FIAT ALLIS D-6 out into the marsh and puts that in up to the cab too!
So now the body count is :
2 farm tractors with batwings
2 front loaders
and a D-6 Dozer
Now of course after making a tiny problem huge, they flee the scene!! Where is all the equipment guys?? Oh, we'll get it tommorow is what we got for an answer. So we decide to go look for ourselves. The dozer( the closest to the taxiway (the only stable ground as far as I was cncerned was 50' away and the farm tractors were the furthest at 300'.
I checked it all out and I told them to get our CAT D-9, leave it on the taxiway and start with the closest and pull them out ONE AT A TIME. I told them to use steel ramps and 6x6 timbers under the tires/tracks to use as a ramp when they pull. Well they decidse to take all the timbers and ramps out there with a JD loader forklift attatchment and the lazy $#@!%^ wouldn't walk them out there, so....as you may imagine, another loader is stuck!
We finally went out there to school these dummies on recovery and showed them how t wedge the timbers and ramps under the tracks/wheels of the machines to use as a ramp to drag them out.
It took 9 hours, but sure as STUFF, we got them all out. It took the Airfield sweeper 3 hours to clean up all the mud we tracked all over the place out there.
The day after I went out and baught a digital camera so next time I could get this on film. Biggest gaggle of idiots and machines I ever saw.
STEVE......PLEASE TAKE PICTURES IF YOU CAN, I'D OWE YOU FOREVER TO PUT THEM ON MY SITE!!!
I'll confess and say that this was not us(me) who created this mess. (not to say its past me........)
We have subs doing obstruction removal in our safety areas (tree removal in wetlands) at the approach ends of the runways, and sure enough, they got stuck.
So, now, part of the responsibility may possibily lay on our department because we now have close to 200,000 lbs of equipment stuck in a safety area.
Guido, your story made me laugh. I am completely on track now that I have witnessed this disaster. I've had some very close times with our 20' footer too, and was real lucky to get out. I'm sure the base loved having to close the runway down for the cleanup!
As for Paul's advice, yes, he his one of great knowlegde! (Thanks, as I have talked to others and they all COMPLETELY AGREE with you on the method)
We watched these guys and knew they were gonna sink the second machine. they had a pile of cut down trees sitting right next to them, and I was there saying 'shouldn't they get those underneath them so that they don't sink again?'
Pictures? Oh ya! I have 2 rolls of film already and can't wait to take more tomorrow. The whole thing in print. I will post them as soon as possible.......and will keep posting as the saga continues, as I have a funny feeling it will.....Have some great shots of the 280 sitting in the hole with mud up/over the engine cover.
I will keep you all posted on how things turn out.