What would you do?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by MowerMoney, Apr 6, 2005.

  1. MowerMoney

    MowerMoney LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 281

    This past January a guy calls me and says he knows me from 25 years ago (although I don't remember him) and says that he heard I was in the lawn cutting business. He is also wanting to start this and wants to know how business is going. If it's worthwhile or not.

    Thinking that since he lives 10 miles away in another town that he won't be in my area, I tell him some of my strategies that work for me. He also says that if he knows of a property that I'm doing, he won't pursue it. (You know where this is going, don't you)

    Anyways, I had a contract last year for 13 group homes for a local care giving company, and guess what? Right, he is bidding against me. He even called me to tell me this. Then he has the nerve to suggest that if he wins it, do I want to do half of them BUT if I win it, will I give him half. Two problems here. IF I win it, no way will I give away what I already had last year. And if he wins it, why would I want to do them for the lower price that he obviously bid. (I know what it actually takes to do them, he is only guessing and too low at that).

    This contract also calls for fertilizing 2 times per year. I know that he is not licenced (required in Ontario) for that and will be doing it himself.
    What would you do?
  2. ECS

    ECS LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,733

    Tell him to take a flippin hike. I would personally contact the HMO or the 13 to seek out their patronage.
  3. lsylvain

    lsylvain LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 779

    Shoot if you get the place sub it out to him for half the price, do the fert yourself and make some free money.
  4. twins_lawn_care

    twins_lawn_care LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 932

    you could contact the organization, and make sure to have them check for his license for fertilizing. depends how you want to handle it.
    you could talk to them before they make a decision if you think you may not get it, or wait until their decision, and then talk to them.
    I guess it depends on how you think it will go.

    sounds like this guy really isn't being fair to you, and so think about yourself and your business first.
  5. marko

    marko LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 963

    Gonna have to protect yourself on this one! Make sure he knows that you will protect your livelihood and report to the HOA that he is not licensed to use fert/chemicals, and to check (like twins said). They should also check his liability insurance.
    Next time he calls, tell him you are swamped from flyering cars in mall or grocery store parking lots (even tell him what was on "yours"). That should keep him busy and out of your hair, at least for a while.
  6. tonygreek

    tonygreek LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,915

    when you submit bids, add your various certification docs and a copy of your cert of insurance. put a cover sheet on it that says something along the line of "In order to facilitate your bid review process, I have attached the following:" and then next to the line item for your application cert, put "A legal requirement for any company, per Gov't of Ontario" or some such.

    and then start dialing the phone for every violation on this guy you can think of...
  7. prizeprop

    prizeprop LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 822

    Maybe he will sub out the applications. Is it illegal to secure a bid for applying chemicals or illegal to actually apply them yourself without a lic.?I know alot of lco's who sub out there chemical apps because they don't want to deal with the bologne of all the regs.& lic. I could care less what everyone else does. Not directed at anyone, lets put all the scrub this ,no lic that, billy stole my customer crap to bed already.I'll do this business until it doesn't work anymore ,then I'll move on. No one owes me anything in life.Sorry just venting, the dog crapped on the rug and I'm pissed!
  8. lawnrangeralaska

    lawnrangeralaska LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 433

    you should just find out where he lives an go have a chat with him.. maybe come back at night and drain his oil out of hios truck... :cool:
  9. lawnandplow42

    lawnandplow42 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 508

    I'd actually do that.

    Sounds like a PITA kinda guy. I'd get things straight with him before he starts asking even more stupid questions.
    Tell him to shove a running trimmer up his ***, and not to bother you anymore.
  10. Jpocket

    Jpocket LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,282

    I would'nt have told him that much man really. Unless you guys are on different levels

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