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What Would You Do?!?

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by joallen001, Nov 8, 2007.

  1. Scottscape

    Scottscape LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 76

    I wouldn't be responsible for the trees if they die and would let the home owner know that these trees may not live but me having less than 6 mos. before I can take my ISA cert. arborist exam, I can say that if the home owner insists to keep the trees dig out the back fill atleast 2-3 ft more wide install a retaining wall in there then plant ivy. My best recommendation though would be to remove the trees then back fill.

  2. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 18,334

    Sad :cry: :cry: You would think if the trees weren't removed to begin with they were expected to be kept by the designer.

    I agree with the cut and replant suggestions. Best you could do if you wanted to keep the existing trees is build retaining walls, which IMO is poor solution to a crappy backfill job.
  3. AGLA

    AGLA LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,776

    The root of the problem appears to be the selection of a house that did not fit the site or the lack of planning the site to accept the house.

    Different communities have different requirements to get building permits. Up here in the people's republic you typically need a site plan that shows existing contours, proposed contours, and limits of clearing. Everyone would have known that retaining walls would be necessary or trees would have to be cut because it would all have to be proven out on paper. In some places you just need to show that it meets zoning setbacks and no one actually proves out a site plan. The next thing you know, you are reacting to the siye and the house after the house is under construction.

    Yup, you save money in engineering costs by not needing the site proven out. But then you are faced with the unexpected which is sometimes the gift that keeps on giving.

    This looks like a case where someone got a house plan and forced it on a site. We have a walkout basement and a first floor garagethat requires 4' of fill chasing down a slope that is a great distance away from the driveway. It is just incomplete planning from the get go.

    So, they saved a grand or two in engineering and now will pay much more in trees and/or retaining walls. Dollars vs. sense.
  4. PaperCutter

    PaperCutter LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,996

    Oh, you liked the Corinthian columns on a brick house in Tennessee too?
  5. bobcat52

    bobcat52 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 28

    Cut the stinkin' trees down... plant some smaller trees and shrubs and work around those... end of story.
  6. joallen001

    joallen001 LawnSite Member
    from TN
    Messages: 247

    the just recently dug this out from around the trees. We told them they would die so they dug it out. I would say the builder is responsible for this. The customer definately does not want to lose the trees.
  7. Sunscaper

    Sunscaper LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 305

    Builders see us as a stone in their shoe more than anything. It kills me how much profit interior guys keep and people have no problem paying it. However, we show up with 100k plus in equipment and people almost hit the floor at landscaping rates. Landscaping is usually planned at the end of the project when all the change orders like granite, porcelain, travertine has been upgraded. Then people want a CHEAP driveway etc. because they are WAAAYY over budget. I want to know why would you rather slice tomatoes on a $8k granite counter instead of driving up to a nicely landscaped house you can be proud of? I will ALWAYS have formica counter tops for this reason.
  8. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,137

    If the trees live, I'd like to see Allan Block retaining walls built in a crescent around them with the wall flollowing the slope and daylighting on the bottom, even rock would look nice.

    SOUTHERNGREENSCAPES LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 763

    I Say You Don't Plant Any Grass On The Hill And Let God And The Rain Wash Out The Trees. And When It Washes Out The House, Just Call The Builder Back To Fix It All.....
  10. joallen001

    joallen001 LawnSite Member
    from TN
    Messages: 247

    Thanks for all the input on this. I appreciate all the help. If we land the job I will post pics.

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