I ran up my dealer today since I am getting back into the business. I decided to get 3 Great Dane Super Surfers and wanted to see what kind of specials they had on them. They didn't have any to my surprised. We got to talking to the manager, and he was telling us this story. A new young fellow wanted to get into this, never cut a blade of grass in his life with 0 customers. He had an elderly Vietnam vet in a walker and on oxygen backing him. He came into the place and bought 2 trailers, mowers, saws, blowers, etc. totally 35k, and two 2004 ford f350's then decided not to do it. So, the police impounded mostly everything except the trucks and trailers which the guy has in his name. Well my dealer had two of his mowers and a nice new snowblower there they are trying to sell for him. They told me to make an offer and they will present it to him. So here it is, I am considering buying his 61" efi 2003 GD Chariot with a 25hp Kohler efi engine. Its been sitting outside for some time, but kicked up on the first try. It has 5 hours on it. The second is a 48" scamper with the b&s vanguard pull start with 5 or less hours. What do you guys think is a fair offer to make on these things? This guy is like 100k in debt and just wants to move this stuff, but for some reason, its still there. They said the only offer they got was 300$ on the snow blower which is a 2k$ unit. I wanted all surfers, but I may be able to get these at a price where I just cant refuse, then buy a 52" surfer with a Kaw engine...I really dislike Kohler! Thanks!