Ok, I know this has been asked before but I would like some updated replys. I live in central new york and there are alot of undercutting dogs around here that don't have insurance and don't have $60,000 in equiptment(including truck). There is an aray of what guys are doing for spring cleanup and fall cleanup. And as far as doing lawns the price changes like the stock market. I know these will be longer replys but please share your input. What are you guys charging for these services and what do you do for the customer when it comes to spring and fall cleanups. I am thinking of splitting up my services to be able to bill seperately for the seperate services. I am just tired of busting my butt and fighting lowering my price so other scrubs don't get the work. Hopefully some guys from upstate NY will see this so the charges will be comperable. Any and all replys very welcome. This site is an awsome place to vent and get sound advise!!Thanks.