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Discussion in 'Florida Lawn Care Forum' started by Landscape Poet, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,997

    Then the granola eaters have another problem of their own creation. By telling people when they can and cannot water, the problem of leaching/runoff is created. If watering is restricted to only a few days out of the week, tendency is for people to try and make up for the lack of water by over irrigating. Putting time windows is also counterproductive because people then try to apply more water than what the soil can absorb. As I previously stated, on sand, my irrigation schedule is based on daily watering, not at night, set to apply 1/7" of an inch of water adjusted according to turf response. If it stays too damp, then days are cut out of the week. Too dry and run time goes up. This cannot be done if the lawn is visited only once every 45-60 days. I am all for the usage of rain sensors. Do not like to see sprinklers in full glory during a thunderstorm. The scenario of someone well meaning shutting everything down because of one drop of rain and forgetting to turn it back on for almost a month is even worse. Especially in my area. Might storm for a day or a week, then there is no more for often months on end.
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  3. fl-landscapes

    fl-landscapes LawnSite Silver Member
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    People may re think this, I was told in 2014 not only will people need to be certified for fertlizer but they are hiring 23 new agents to inspect specifically for fertlizer violations. Good grief charlie brown

  4. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
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    What do they hope to do by this? Collecting enough from the fines to pay for the inspectors. Now what if the application is liquid? Does that mean they are going to draw samples from every sprayer? Or if someone's lawn does not look bad they are going to do all kinds of testing and investigation? I thought Florida had money problems.

    In my world, the bags of granules would no longer be on the shelves at HD or K or W. Professional applicators would also be encouraged to use low rate feedings at frequent intervals rather than one big application every 2 or 3 months. It is not hard to apply 1/4-1/2 lb of N as a liquid.
  5. fl-landscapes

    fl-landscapes LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,542

    Trying to find logic among illogical politicians is useless. They will accomplish nothing but hinder business, and probably hurt the environment at the same time. I believe Florida actually had a budget surplus last year for the first time in many years. I just think it is the overall attitude in this country among politicians that they need to babysit and regulate everything. I mean, what is a legislator to do with his time if he isn't writing legislation? Their answer to everything is a new law even if it compounds the problem and doesn't fix it.
  6. fl-landscapes

    fl-landscapes LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,542

    Couldn't agree more. I guess they would have really no practical way of regulating and fining violators, so they do the dummied down approach and pass a ordinance that's easy to regulate and patrol like black out dates for the entire growing season. Like I said it is a futile effort to try and apply rationale thought to irrational politicians......I mean dummies.
  7. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,997

    Agreed. As I said, in my world high rate granular fertilizations would not happen from homeowners or professionals. Picking on people like you or Ric does not address Mr DIY blowing an entire bag of Turfbuilder on a 1000 sq ft lawn right before a thunderstorm. Not to mention that this is done several times a year.
  8. gregory

    gregory LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,079

    I agree greendoc. I think alot of the problem is from the un-educated homeowners that do just what you said..alot of people not just in fertlizer have the mind set if alittle is good then alot must be great...they dont take the time to calibrate there spreader or sprayer.. they just walk outside and start to dump it on there yard...I know I've learned alot on this site bc of the things I've read on here or asked.. but alot wont do the leg work...
  9. jvanvliet

    jvanvliet LawnSite Gold Member
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    Thank you I feel edumekated already.:rolleyes:

    A balance of nutrients and proper irrigation is always the way to go.

    You may not experience the same weather patterns in Orlando as we do down here in coastal PBC and BC. To dump fert during the rainy season virtually guarantees it will get washed away when the afternoon monsoon arrives.

    Anyway, there's usually always some residual nitrogen available in the soil; unless the turf grass yellows (ruling out insect or pathogen), nitrogen fertilizer is probably not indicated when heavy rains are imminent.

    Big difference in temperatures between zone 9b and 10b; as much as 20 degrees. Do you think the warmer temperatures down here may affect dormancy rates?

    It's usually a mistake to apply your regional norms to a different region since environmental factors differ.
  10. fl-landscapes

    fl-landscapes LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,542

    You sure you even live in Florida? Let me edumakate you some more. Orlando isn't SW Florida, which is what my location says. And don't change your stance, you said DON'T fertilize during the rainy season. Which is April to October here, that's straight out of .....what did you call it......southern lawn care for r3tards? That's not proper nutrients that's zero nutrients. Now move on to be a nuisance in another thread would ya.


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