whats wrong with this tree ?

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  1. befnme

    befnme LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,413

    my lawn had grubs this year but i killed them out and the lawn has recovered .but this ash tree that was in the midst of the grub problem hasnt been the same since. it was a great tree last year with huge leaves but not now . what is wrong ?

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  2. befnme

    befnme LawnSite Bronze Member
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  3. befnme

    befnme LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,413

    this is what the new growth does . instead if growing it just curls up and turns brown.

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  4. imdawrlus

    imdawrlus LawnSite Member
    Messages: 49

    the tree is defective.
  5. FLAhaulboy

    FLAhaulboy LawnSite Senior Member
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    i think this is the problem, though i could be wrong.
  6. mike lane lawn care

    mike lane lawn care LawnSite Bronze Member
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    maybe your grub control damaged the tree? it is a small tree so it isn't out of the question, but as said above is good advice.
  7. FLAhaulboy

    FLAhaulboy LawnSite Senior Member
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    it doesn't look like its worth saving. if you destroy it, be sure to put all limbs in plastic bag or burn it so you dont transfer the fungi elsewhere. i wouldn't plant another tree in the same area until you treat the soil for fungus...which might not work.
  8. FLAhaulboy

    FLAhaulboy LawnSite Senior Member
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    TURFLORD LawnSite Senior Member
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    When trees are in a weakened state, a whole host of things starts to attack it. The tree is garbage now. One of those pictures looks like Midge, but I'm not sure if they infest Ash. It mostly looks like last years budset was severly injured. Young trees are more susceptible to frost,bark splits,etc. You also might check and see if the ropes around the ball were cut when it was planted. ??????? I don't think insecticides had anything to do with it.
  10. Team-Green L&L

    Team-Green L&L LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Just a thought, but did you plant the tree? We find alot of this with new construction homes where the Mexicans forgot to take the basket off. Especially with Fischer Homes.

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