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Whats wrong with this tree ????

Discussion in 'Landscape Maintenance' started by DC & Sons, Jul 2, 2009.

  1. DC & Sons

    DC & Sons LawnSite Member
    Messages: 63

    Can someone please tell me some details on what is going on here with this tree. It split after after about a year from being installed. Should I take it down and start over? And does anyone know what type of tree it is?

    Thank you



    IRRITECH LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 999

    Looks like a red maple and I would gues freeze damage. Whatever it is, it's time to get a new tree.
  3. RedSquareLandscaping

    RedSquareLandscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 256

    Yeah IRRITECH is wright. Freese Damge is the answer. Cut it down and get a new one. Next time buy a tarp to cover it
  4. Think Green

    Think Green LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,746

    That maple has sustained major frost cracking and overexposure to excessive winds and or drought damage to the trunk. Do you have a water system where the head showers the trunk area of that tree? The excess water and heat can cause the tree to crack and the insect like ants--borer's--and termites will invade. Overwatering of the maple can cause excessive trunk crack and overfertilizing. I have seen where damage from planting causes a canker---if left unattended, the rains and cold weather get into the wound and it starts rather quickly to destroy the xylem and phloem of the tree for the insects to attack.
    At present time, the tree is suseptible to wind damage and toppling. It may look fine and perky now, but at any time, anything can cause it to suddenly die!
    Remove it and get a new one...........Keep moisure away from the trunk if possible or try another species of tree.
    My property has 6 silver maples on the lawn. We purchased the house this way as the trees are all 10-12 years old and they all have severe cracks and callused wounds. The winters here are brutal with fluctuant temperature.
  5. mdlwn1

    mdlwn1 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,443

    Funny...very funny. A red maple? LMFAO The trunk inside is completely dead...only the outer layer is alive. If this tree is only 2 years old, it was like this the day it was planted.
  6. mdlwn1

    mdlwn1 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,443

    Freeze damage...lol those north carolina winters are just brutal.
  7. SfTD_service_CENTER

    SfTD_service_CENTER LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 868

    no i know whats wrong a bum lives inside it! you just gotta tell him he needs to move to another tree!
  8. Think Green

    Think Green LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,746

    NC does recieve some frost temperatures as well as some slight freezing--I have relatives over there.
    I agree with this tree not being a red maple...........sorry Irritech! This species of Acer is more ornamental but can't depict the original name. There are too many to single out!!?
    Correct, the core--hearwood is dead---it is in all trees. The lateral rays that are located within the heartwood are there for nutrient storage and strength. The only true living portions of the tree are the bark,cambium,xylem and the phloem. A tree grows with in the first 3 layers of these linings, and branches shoot out from bracts located within the heartwood. The feeder roots, lateral roots, and tap roots are living underground and they are related to the living tissue within the outer linings..
    I am with you as far as the tree being planted for 1 year and this much damage caused. However, basal cankers, blister, sun scald, line trimmer damage, is mostly responsible for these damages of maples. Typically planting damage or a neglected tree from the nursery is responsible. If I saw this tree being planted on my job site from another landscaper, they would have taken it back immediately and the owner contacted for an ass chewing. There is no real logical way for that tree to have been planted on that site for one year and that much damage caused. The tree was sick to begin with and it is going to die for sure. IF NOT NOW---Could be a couple of years.

    Now, Since I am the only sane responding person other than Irritech, does anyone else with any sort of Arboricultural background feel they need to respond? I did speak in behalf of my memory and not by some textbook on the parts of the trunk and roots of a tree.

    Did you by chance chain a dog up to this tree, or do you have children that felt it cute to hack or cut into the living tissue of this tree.??
    Once that Cambium layer was severed, a host of diseases and insects were welcomed to the feast of this nice MAPLE tree!!

    IRRITECH LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 999

    Get a close up of the leaves and I'll bet that it is an Acer rubrum. Bark does not appear to be damaged at the bottom . Still looks like freeze damage to me. Could have been planted that way , looks like a standard clear cut subdivision where they are required to install ine tree per yard. Around here that means the cheapest plant you can get, damaged or not.
  10. DC & Sons

    DC & Sons LawnSite Member
    Messages: 63

    Thanks for info guys. When it was planted it was fine. It happened after the first season, and yes probably a cheap tree. :usflag:

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