I've been reading alot about Tupersan lately and liked the idea of something going after crabgrass only. Now I'm thinking it's not the best idea I've come across. SO: I was thinking of getting a Starter Fert with Tupersn and then summer applications with it also, later in the year... no one is carrying the Lebanon starter with Tupersan, so I'm screwed right off the bat. NEXT: I can get Tupersan "straight" (for late May/ early June) but WOW is it expensive! You have to use double the rate for an existing lawn which mean using the straight Tupersan would run me about 120.00, + any Fert application I choose to use. THEN I try to find a starter fert with Tupersn today and I had this older gentleman say "What the h*ll do you want to use that for", no one uses it anymore. The he said to use a Non pre-em enriched starter fert, then they have a special blend of fert with Dimension, that at the rates they mix it, work as a pre and post emergent. He said to put it down as close to June 15th as possible. Here's my dilemma: I was hoping to use the Tupersan, because I'm trying to recover a very abused 50yr old lawn, and want to be able to "spot seed" all year and not have to worry about the dimension killing off my new growth and/or seed. If I wait till June 15th, I'll have crazy amounts of crabgrass already! What is your most effective regime of crabgrass control?