which polymeric sand

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by dovetail, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. dovetail

    dovetail LawnSite Member
    from va
    Messages: 11

    I am completing a drylay bluestone patio. Base was 6inches of crush/run followed by one inch of stone dust. Which polymeric sand?
    I contacted Techniseal and they recommended HP2. I can only obtain the RG+ locally. Alliance Gator dust and Superbond are available too. Any thoughts on which brand and type?
  2. Cam.at.Heritage

    Cam.at.Heritage LawnSite Member
    Messages: 76

    I guess I am partial (and not sure it its available there) but Envirobond is good stuff. Never really used anything else.
  3. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,619

    Some people like Peter Pan peanut butter, Some like Jiffy peanut butter.

    What's important is that you use what's speced for your job (joint widths, depths, etc)
  4. STL Ponds and Waterfalls

    STL Ponds and Waterfalls LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,174

    What size joints are in the patio. I would lean towards the Gator Dust if you have bigger joints 1.5" and up. I use Super sand, but I haven't used the Gator dust yet.
  5. Hayes Outdoor

    Hayes Outdoor LawnSite Member
    Messages: 30

    Joint width is very important in your decision. I almost always use Gator Dust. Especially with irregular natural stone because your joints will be different widths throughout the project. Just be sure to clean your stone off really well before wetting it down because it will leave a white film on the stone. Good Luck
  6. dovetail

    dovetail LawnSite Member
    from va
    Messages: 11

    Argh. I should have posted the joint width. 1/2 inch.
    So, in my research I have found that wide joints larger particle size. I was just wondering what really is the difference between types. I was a little confused by the Techniseal rep. It seems when I look at the specs there is little difference between the two types they have. But, when I said to the rep that I had used stone dust he steered me to the HP2.
    So given a smaller joint size of less than one inch are all the major brands basically the same?
    Thanks for the replies.
  7. dovetail

    dovetail LawnSite Member
    from va
    Messages: 11

    One more thing. The bluestone is 1.5 inch thick.
  8. ryde307

    ryde307 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 540

    IM not as experianced as many here but personaly we used techniseal sand and switched to just using alliance (gator) sand. It seems to hold up better and small thing but the bags are much better and hold up to being moved. It sucks to tare a $20 bag of sand moving it around.
  9. AztlanLC

    AztlanLC LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,051

    This season we had issues with alliance, the haze that leaves on the pavers is the main issue, I explain this to my sales rep and he brought Jack the owner of alliance and his crew to show us the proper way to install it, I asked to do a separate section with techniseal next to theirs, you could see the difference between the 2 sections but they still were saying with couple of rains they will look the same.
    They seem to be confident of their product and stand behind it, but for me is hard to justify keep using their sand as much as I like and respect the way they tried to resolve my concerns.
  10. LoweJ82

    LoweJ82 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 365

    never used either but Im about to use 45 bags of gator dust on a flagstone walkway and patio like area.

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