Who has seen a Pro-C module fail?

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by txgrassguy, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. txgrassguy

    txgrassguy LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,083

    Thanks for the answers.
    The module that failed is an older gray colored unit.
    Client had advised that those three station on that module were working intermittently prior to my expanding the system.
    Initially I thought it was due to a field wiring problem yet yesterday I was up-dating a really bad wiring job leading to the controller - that's how I found the problem.
    I agree about some manufacturers having bad runs on components, I have certainly experienced valve problems - however not enough to switch brands.
  2. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 50,759

    You would think that valves and heads should reach some steady state of quality, once the design is finalized, but there can still be production problems.
  3. grassman177

    grassman177 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,795

    Ive seen bad modules, I've seen only odd numbered zones work, burnt out faceplate screens.......u name it.i also see more esp rainbird controllers fry than any other..........

    So, it happens to all brands.

    however, the worst has to be the toro groundskeeper
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  4. DanaMac

    DanaMac LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,226

    I had an ICC fail mid summer on a commercial property while it was 90+ degree everyday. Controller wouldn't recognize modules 2,3 & 4. I hit the reset on the back of the panel, and it worked - for two weeks and did it again. Replaced it with an I-Core.
  5. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 18,335

    WTF you talkin about? The GreensKeeper is to die for. Dem buttons rock! :rolleyes:
  6. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,553

    I've had problems with ESP-Ms too... Search the forum for "MV ERR" or "back panel". They fixed the problem, but it took a while.
  7. Irrigation Contractor

    Irrigation Contractor LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 424

    When the 1" and 2" PGA issue occurred due to molding problems, RB allowed us to purchase PEB's for the PGA price. Needless to say, we have a few hundred 2" and even more 1" PEB's stocked now:cool2:
  8. cjohn2000

    cjohn2000 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 570

    I had to do three firmware reboots on ESP-Ms this year. Second one zone 4 wouldnt show up when you went to set run times and zone 2 you could only set it for 1-9 minutes. Of course that being said, I have old Pro c faces sitting around. But by far the biggest POS I see are the older deep cabineted ESPs, we have stacks of those. All the old RB clocks seem to have problems with the dial not making contact. Im not biased I hate them all equally:rolleyes:
  9. cjohn2000

    cjohn2000 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 570

    Didn't RB have probs with the PEBs? I pulled a few this year, must have been the same batch with cracked seats.
  10. txgrassguy

    txgrassguy LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,083

    Well, I found the problem on why that particular module failed.
    Long story short the homeowner hired a local "handyman" for some work around his residence - and the handyman re-wired the field connections, according to the homeowner.
    When I up-dated and expanded the system I noticed a bunch of 16 & 18 gauge wires looped and taped together leading into the garage.
    As I removed the wires, section 5 was apparently shorting out inside the wall - seems the handyman added wire to this section to reach the controller and the joint was not protected - bare wires just twisted together. Furthermore he had changed colors so the red 16 awg was extended with a white 18 awg then back to a red 16 awg.
    Basically looked like someone crapped a bunch of wires in the wall.

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