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Who is expecting good sales 2009?

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by Stihl036pro, Feb 26, 2009.

  1. Carolina Cuts

    Carolina Cuts LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,152

    ummm he was cutting her yard for one season. (She just moved in last year)
    I happen to have 5 other properties on the street. And flooded the community with more flyers.
    Again, it's under 4000sqft of turf.... TURF.
    I priced it fair.

    6 postage stamp size properties on one street @ $25-
    is better then 2 properties @ $35-

    I didn't stab anyone in the back, (dude has a rep for never showing up and over charging).... I even gave her the opportunity to talk to her guy... he knows he has a buffer in his price (gouged) and chose NOT to match mine... he also cuts her neighbors apparently... so he's risking losing that customer as well. The LCO that does the common grounds of this community flooded the area with $25- flyers... So what's the problem?

    If smart business makes me a lowballer, then so be it. My rates are $25, $30, $35 according to turf sqft.... and I stick to it...

    Why does everyone preach "Lowballer" when someone can perform a service cheaper then another and still make money??? :hammerhead::hammerhead:
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2009
  2. LB1234

    LB1234 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,208

    You're an idiot. Why do you have to call someone a lowballer? Simply because they have a lower price? Just b/c someone can perform a service at a lower price DOESN'T MAKE THEM A LOWBALLER!!!! Did Carolina cuts provide you with his financial records? Then, and only then, can you really tell whether or not he has 'lowballed' the price.

    His overhead costs can be significantly lower than his competitors. Perhaps his business is built specifically for those size lawns or this account sits right between two of his other accounts and he simply can run the mower straight across all three. I don't know, you don't know...no one knows but Carolina. Think a little before making a stupid ass accusation about someone being a lowballer.

  3. LB1234

    LB1234 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,208

    Because most people don't know what it actually costs to operate their business.
  4. Carolina Cuts

    Carolina Cuts LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,152

    and because some mook' was upset that their account was lost to someone else.... EVERYBODY who loses a job points the finger @ the "Lowballer" and never points the finger @ themselves.

    just had this conversation on this site last season.... some guy was knocking up on all my customers doors in a particular community, asking how much "I" charge, and offering them better deals to drop me.... yes, regardless of 'our history', some do choose to cut corners and cut their monthly costs. I lost 2-3 accounts.... Did I call him a lowballer??? No... but maybe he was a prick for knocking up and soliciting my customers, but dude had to do what he had to.... that's business... he had ALOT of customers in the community and he wanted more. So be it...
  5. gqnine44

    gqnine44 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 501

    Why not have low costs and still charge top dollar. The way I look at it is... If the customer is willing to pay $35 - I want $35. If they are willing to pay $37.50 - I want $37.50 it doesnt matter to me if my costs are $25 or $0.25 per lawn - I want top dollar - granted it is up to me to convice the customer I am worth it and we have to deliver a high quality job. I am not in business to save the customer $10 over a competitor - I dont do this for exercise - I do it for profit only.

    Sorry if you are offended - I just dont like the idea of price shopping and matching prices. I dont want to live in that world even though I know it is coming.
  6. Carolina Cuts

    Carolina Cuts LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,152

    understood and agree, but I quoted her on what I thought the lawn was worth.... it was THEN when she told me what she HAD been paying during the last season. I can't exactly say... "Oops, I mean $30".... because I suddenly realized she's pay more... that would be silly and unethical.
  7. LB1234

    LB1234 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,208

    That's fine. I agree about price shopping and matching prices. I hope you don't price shop for your fuel. If you do you are a hippocrite. I hope you pull into the same gas station you always do when prices top the 3 dollar mark again and the station one block down you can provide it for ten cents cheaper a gallon. Because according to your definition that lower station is a low baller, cause he can be charging 10 cents more a gallon.
  8. gqnine44

    gqnine44 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 501

    Abosolutely I price shop. The same rules dont apply to me. I buy low and sell high.

    There are of course customers soley motivated by price - who I try to avoid.
  9. supercuts

    supercuts LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,785

    it better be a good year, ive already bought more mowers to expand and start my 2nd crew this year. ive got 2 more guys waiting to go. mike, i may be coming your way, im looking at a condo in westbrook. you need to come by and check out the new house, im putting a roof on friday- tuesday?? so ill be home all weekend if you want to stop by and check it out. i bought alot of equipment too, ill show you all the deals i got. go under tractors and check out my new kubota, under "bought an L3600" tell me what you think

  10. fool32696

    fool32696 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 993

    Company sales for January and February 09 are up almost 300% over Jan/Feb 08. Our lawn maintenance and landscaping is about flat. I've been pushing my decorative concrete division really hard and the effort is paying off despite the naysayers (whiners).

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