winter builds?

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by Mowingandmore, Dec 23, 2008.

  1. Mowingandmore

    Mowingandmore LawnSite Member
    Messages: 46

    I usually stick to snow removal in the winter but a customer had a old wall fall and wants it replaced with versa-lok its is about 30ft long and runs from 5ft to nothing, along a driveway. the last few days have been around 10 outside but its going up to the 40s here next week. Just wondering of there is any thing that need to be done differently in the winter months to make sure the wall has its same strength.
  2. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,260

    Just don't install base on frozen ground. You might have to excavate alittle more to get to unfrozen ground.
  3. STL Ponds and Waterfalls

    STL Ponds and Waterfalls LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,174

    What Rusk said. If you install on frozen ground when it thaws the wall can settle and than you will be rebuilding it.
  4. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,260

    Yea only excavate and install base on what you can lay the first course down in a day.
  5. Hard at Werk

    Hard at Werk LawnSite Member
    from MA
    Messages: 19

    I think by now frost is down about a foot or so and unless you have a piece of equipment that can chew on that don't bother. Which in my opinion a full size backhoe or a huge mini x
  6. soopa

    soopa LawnSite Member
    from NY
    Messages: 132

    9000 lb+ excavator w/ rock bucket for ground frozen that deep, IMO. And prepare for over excavation.

    As long as you and your guys can stay motivated enough to fight the weather, it can be done.
  7. Hard at Werk

    Hard at Werk LawnSite Member
    from MA
    Messages: 19

    I have an 11,600 lb machine and Last time I tried doing something like that I sprang a leak. ( one of the hoses inside blew ) Took the better part of the day to repair. So only if you are that desperate.
  8. btammo

    btammo LawnSite Member
    Messages: 98

    I would be surprised if the frost was that far down this early in the season in Pittsburgh. Its not that far down here.
  9. PlatinumLandCon

    PlatinumLandCon LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,315

    rusk and STL know what they're talking about. Personally, I'd clean up the mess to get the area ready for spring. Don't take too much away because you don't want crazy erosion from spring run off. It needs to be done soon if its going to get done.
  10. Paradise Landscapes

    Paradise Landscapes LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 959

    1) That's the reason why I don't do winter installs, walls, walkways or patios.
    2) I don't like to freeze while doing installs.

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