Bro, put some ice in that drink, and simmer down a little... That late night's got you a little spicy this morning.
Y'all are just talking past each other slightly. I heard no shots fired.
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Y'all are just talking past each other slightly. I heard no shots fired.
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Yes its for rear main seals on engines found in combines, tractors, and semis and so on. I already said that, not sure what you are arguing. It has several vehicle applications.
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Nevermind. You do not understand. It has zero vehicle applications. It is an engine tool. On the listing of what it works on, not a single vehicle is listed. Only the engines it will service.
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Ryno is just a talking head. He has no actual knowledge of the topic at hand.
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That is absolutely not true in fact the part online that i linked show a couple dozen models it works on. Not only does it also show the engines, but it in fact shows the vehicles. It also specifies the dimentions of the crank shaft seal because many times on old tractors you need to confirm this by looking at the old seal part numbers.
here's another link.
ZTSE2535C Rear Oil Seal Wear Sleeve Installer Alt ST-154-C
ST-154-C Rear Oil Seal Wear Sleeve Installer ZTSE2535C 5022 04-149 Alternative Attention: Most workshop manuals are incorrect. The only way to make sure you get the correct installer is to check your seal number or measure the diameter of your crankshaft. This tool is used on cranks that are 5"...
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specifically states 04-149 alternative and your OTC part number cross references with ZTSE235C
I find it weird that by posting the alternative parts online that this has turned into an argument. You've got the part you've had for 20 years, I explained that this day in age on the interwebz this isn't a rare custom made part, it's readily available to your door in a couple days and is in fact more common than some folks think. That's all, it's not special made for your tractor or your tractors motor. It ranges in several tractor models and a series of motors.
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Have you ever held this particular tool in your hand? Yes or no.That is absolutely not true in fact the part online that i linked show a couple dozen models it works on. Not only does it also show the engines, but it in fact shows the vehicles. It also specifies the dimentions of the crank shaft seal because many times on old tractors you need to confirm this by looking at the old seal part numbers.
here's another link.
ZTSE2535C Rear Oil Seal Wear Sleeve Installer Alt ST-154-C
ST-154-C Rear Oil Seal Wear Sleeve Installer ZTSE2535C 5022 04-149 Alternative Attention: Most workshop manuals are incorrect. The only way to make sure you get the correct installer is to check your seal number or measure the diameter of your crankshaft. This tool is used on cranks that are 5"...
specifically states 04-149 alternative and your OTC part number cross references with ZTSE235C
I find it weird that by posting the alternative parts online that this has turned into an argument. You've got the part you've had for 20 years, I explained that this day in age on the interwebz this isn't a rare custom made part, it's readily available to your door in a couple days and is in fact more common than some folks think. That's all, it's not special made for your tractor or your tractors motor. It ranges in several tractor models and a series of motors.
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No, thats your tool.
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Have you held a copy of this tool in your hand?
These word games that you think are cute, aren’t. They are the same ones my teen sons play. You aren’t fooling anyone but yourself. It only leads me ever more to the conclusion you are nothing more than a teen at a keyboard.
Maybe @rippinryno does, maybe he doesn't.
I'm just trying to keep things cool, so the thread stays open, and nobody ends up in Banned Camp.
For real y'all, it's Friday. Let's chill and enjoy the upcoming weekend.
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He doesn’t. That’s why he plays word games.
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Weird thing is, everything ive said about the tool is dead accurate, just really confused as to how that turned into an argument. Maybe in the future if you can provide some data to back up your comments about folks being wrong, that would help. Rather than challenging and name calling all the time. This could be a reason you have been banned from other forums in the past. Looks like you have experience and could provide good info for the forum, but you will have to lighten up. I provided links to cross references and applications for the tool, apparently you dont like the fact that its readily available? I dunno.
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Have you ever held or used one of these tools?
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Just to reiterate, that is not my shop.
If you are indeed talking about my equipment, thank you. We try hard to have nice equipment, even if it is not new.
The shed I rent is a dirt floor pole barn on a gravel road in the middle of nowhere. It’s nothing more than a roof. Mice in it, birds and probably snakes (which I better never find) but it keeps the equipment dry (mostly). Yes, worth every penny.
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I have in fact used these tools dozens of times. They're very common tools, the sizes vary. What you are doing is not something unique to tractors. They're found in a ton of motors. Gotta have the right one for the application and that's all that matters. It's not some rare jewel, it's a specifically sized tool that has more than one particular tractor that it fits.
You mistook my statement about multiple applications to mean that it can be used for something other than the main seal. What I really said was that the tool applies to dozens upon dozens of vehicles, meaning it can be applied to more than 1 tractor. IH has an ad from the late 60's or 70's that specifies this engine in what they call a semi tractor. It's also known now as you have said that this part works on a non 400 series engine, the one you are working on. So, you've proven my statements correct. Multiple applications. You then went on to argue me and say that it has zero vehicle applications and that on the listing where it shows what it's meant to work on that no vehicles are listed. I provided not 1 but 2 links proving that you can in fact use vehicle info and find the right tool.
You mistook my statement about multiple applications to mean that it can be used for something other than the main seal. What I really said was that the tool applies to dozens upon dozens of vehicles, meaning it can be applied to more than 1 tractor. IH has an ad from the late 60's or 70's that specifies this engine in what they call a semi tractor. It's also known now as you have said that this part works on a non 400 series engine, the one you are working on. So, you've proven my statements correct. Multiple applications. You then went on to argue me and say that it has zero vehicle applications and that on the listing where it shows what it's meant to work on that no vehicles are listed. I provided not 1 but 2 links proving that you can in fact use vehicle info and find the right tool.
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Have you used this tool?
List the engine you used a “similar” tool on.
Why dodge the question repeatedly? It’s a simple question. Don’t need a long response that doesn’t answer it. You are deflecting. Hmmmmm
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Hold on a min. You asked if i've ever held or used a tool like that. I literally just told you i've used these types of tools dozens of times. How on earth is that dodging? Be honest, did you have too much green beer yesterday?
I can't read your mind and answer your new question before I know what it is. You want to know what motors I've used these on. Diesels and small engines for the most part. The powerstroke we did a few years back had a tool that was identical to yours, did the same job, but again, sizing is important, they don't all share the same size, but some do, which reiterates the fact that you can use these on multiple vehicle applications.
I can't read your mind and answer your new question before I know what it is. You want to know what motors I've used these on. Diesels and small engines for the most part. The powerstroke we did a few years back had a tool that was identical to yours, did the same job, but again, sizing is important, they don't all share the same size, but some do, which reiterates the fact that you can use these on multiple vehicle applications.
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You keep changing the subject and your answer. My question never changed, I’m simply trying to make sure you understand the question.
I will ask it again, have you ever used this tool?
You just listed you used one on a power stroke. That is a similar tool, but you just said “we”. Is it “we” or you? Did you watch someone use it? Or did you?
Small engines do not require seal installation tools such as this, which anyone who works on them knows. So again, you deflect and try to fool, but I know the difference.
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Who cares if he used the actual tool? It appears it can be used on engines that may be in different equipment. If you feel like fighting to the bitter end about stuff like that, have at it, sounds miserable.
with that being said, here was my morning project
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