I'am trying do decide do I want to build a rolloff system or stick with a dumping flatdeck ? I have to get back into doing landscaping not planting flowers or anything like that but getting back into clean up etc. Currently I have a brandnew hoist sitting in my basement its a telescoping hoist. The one problem it really won't work for a rolloff hoist because it doesn't have enough stroke for a set of 13' rails its good for a 11' box. So I would have to sell it buy a scissor hoist. The pro's about a rolloff hoist is I can have a flatdeck and a few dump boxes it also makes it easier to load with a box on the ground. I can also rent out dumpster boxes. There is only one other person in the area that provides small dumpster boxes the other companies are 40 yard bins only. The Cons the first one the expense of building the system and making boxes which is the scarey part its a big investment and I'am unsure how well I could do profit wise. Looked at hooklifts a person has to invest way too much money looking at 15,000-20,000 just for the hoist no boxes thats extra. The second con is dealing with people that load the bin wrong. You drop a bin at a construction site it ends up getting everything thrown into it. At our landfill everything has to be separated into wood,garbage,metal,drywall etc. So if I have to go to the landfill and separate everything that kind of defeats the purpose of me not handling the material myself. Third con would be the truck I build this on would have to be a 4x4 if I want that then I'am looking at buying a brandnew truck. A F-450 or 550 4x4 used and in good shape is hard to find. A 2wd with a rolloff hoist wouldn't have enough traction I don't think I could get out some places. A rolloff truck would be nice but is it really worth it ? I need to build a dump truck of some sort if I want to be back into landscaping and hauling material. Is there a reason why the companies that have tandem axle trucks and 40 yard bins don't have any smaller trucks ? The one local guy he bought a hook lift and bins back in 91 still has the same truck I don't know if its ever paid for itself. I think it cost him 50,000 dollars back in 91 to buy the truck hoist and a couple boxes. The truck doesn't make him his living he is in the residential garbage P/U with a regular garbage trucks. I have a 9 to 5 job now and it just isn't cutting it I need to get back being self employeed so I'am looking at different options. The bank will give me a loan now that I work for a company I can use that to buy a newer truck and get rolling again. When your self employeed the bank usually just at you. I'am getting tired of the 9 to 5 robot routine the job never changes atleast when I was self employeed I can set my own hours and hopefully make more money.