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browse this site.. you have one person bragging about how much his markup is and another one bragging about how he curses out his customers...you people must be rich off of lawn care..maybe I need to stop being a satellite controller and switch careers as a lawn care professional. Hmmmmm..
 

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jaytee, There really isn't that much mark up in this industry. If you're a solo operator, like myself, and charge a fair price (determined by the area and market you're in) you'll be averaging approx. $20/hr after taking care of all the overhead expenses. There's quite a few lco's that do better than that, but they have usually been in business a long time and have built a large (somewhat selective) clientele. As far as cursing out customers........I can only speak for myself. I don't. In his defense; how much time have you spent in New Jersey? I used to spend a lot of time in Glenrock (Paramus Park area), and the people there are a whole different breed. I refuse to expound any further than that.
 

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Originally posted by jaytee
browse this site.. you have one person bragging about how much his markup is and another one bragging about how he curses out his customers...you people must be rich off of lawn care..maybe I need to stop being a satellite controller and switch careers as a lawn care professional. Hmmmmm..
Not only is this a site for gathering information and getting a helping hand, a lot of people love to VENT also. I apologize for my venting as of late. I usually tend to be cool about things.
However...
If a customer tells me that he will not pay me money owed, he will get a cussing like no other. Then he will pay the money owed and find someone else to service his lawn. Life is too short to mess with those types of people.
 

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jay, there is much more than a paycheck as your reward in this business. its not always about the money. you know the deal: make your own hours, build your business to where YOU want it to be, and so on, and so on. and yes, one of the "fringe benefits", is being able to tell a pain in the butt customer to kiss my hiney. but the money is quite nice also, and its all mine. i didnt make some business owner 5 million , and get paid $70, 000 to do it.
 

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Originally posted by jaytee
browse this site.. you have one person bragging about how much his markup is and another one bragging about how he curses out his customers...you people must be rich off of lawn care..maybe I need to stop being a satellite controller and switch careers as a lawn care professional. Hmmmmm..
Some LCO's have dirty practices and schemes while other may just simply do a small markup on materials so he doesn't have to deal with the headache of justifiying the labor cost that a job is really worth and the customer does not understand/want to pay.

I.E. Beneficial Math ;)
Those with dirty pratices will eventually be found out.

And Rich? Well that depends on what you consider rich.
See below...
Originally posted by bobbygedd
jay, there is much more than a paycheck as your reward in this business. its not always about the money. you know the deal: make your own hours, build your business to where YOU want it to be, and so on, and so on. and yes, one of the "fringe benefits", is being able to tell a pain in the butt customer to kiss my hiney. but the money is quite nice also, and its all mine. i didnt make some business owner 5 million , and get paid $70, 000 to do it.
 

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Hi Jaytee,
Being that you are a "homeowner" doesn't really matter here, this is like any other gathering of people that use a text based means of communicating. There are 12,000 opinions here as well as the personalities to match. Many people are legit but some are here to stir trouble.
This is a place that you have to be as sharp as if you were in a big crowded room looking to talk to the most knowledgable people. It takes a while to find them in the crowd. You have only been here a short time and have formed an impression of lawn care people. Rich at the job, yes some have but they aren't easy to find. One thing is for sure, there are lots of hard workers here. Not all the smartest in business or the richest in pay but many good people. So take in all you can but try and get to know some of the people here. You came to the site for a reason, there are those here who can help. Take care.
 

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As is the case in life outside this web site, there are people who just need attention. Like the little kid who acts up to get noticed. You'll figure out who they are and will learn to take their comments with a grain of salt.

If one truly does high quality work, has sound knowledge and hands on experience with landscape and lawn issues and practices, and understands how to run a business, a very nice income can be had. Personally, the 2 most important perks for me, is that your income can be as high as you want it to be, and you are not subject to downsizings, re-orgs, and the overall stresses that come with being employed today in corporate America.

My father-in- law is a self made very succesful businessman and he told me that after the buisness is up and running and growing, that the personal satisfaction of having your own business , is significant....and he's dead right. Yep the hours are long and you dont have much of a personal life for 9 to 10 months of the year....but the rewards can be well worth the sacrifices that are required in order to successful
 

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Originally posted by GarPA


If one truly does high quality work, has sound knowledge and hands on experience with landscape and lawn issues and practices, and understands how to run a business, a very nice income can be had. Personally, the 2 most important perks for me, is that your income can be as high as you want it to be, and you are not subject to downsizings, re-orgs, and the overall stresses that come with being employed today in corporate America.

I worked in management for a freight company about 20 years and just couldn't take the corporate BS anymore. Much happier being self employed.

Knowing that you and your family directly reap the benefits of making good business decisions is very satisfying.

Yes, I still have allot of stress being self employed but it is much more tolerant then dealing with a--holes that don't know what the heck they are doing and won't listen to logic, making everyones job harder then it needs to be while wasting time and money!

I still haven't fully replaced my management salary I USED to make, but I am gaining ground fast and will soon surpass it. But like I said, I am much happier now then I ever could be working for someone else!
 

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To my clients who are reading this site..............Please pay your bills on time. Please!!!!!:D I'm getting tired of all the phone calls and running around to collect money that I earned.
 

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people have changed bud.there all A*******. i just had a customer get all bent because she had some tree branches that she cut down and wanted picked up. well like i tell all my customers i only do brush removal on fridays and saturdays (landfill is open on those days only) she called on a monday and wanted them picked up on monday.i have customers that haven't paid all season.well i chew them out for a few weeks then i take them to court.as far as mark ups go.prices change for supplies gas topsoil mower parts.....ect. taxes change year to year and so does insurance.i need to make atleast 30 per hour or im out of biz.so chew on that for a while
 

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One thing that you will learn about in this business is people. You will quickly learn that most people that want someone to provide their lawn care for them are either very sensitive about the way their yard is cared for or they can't do it themselves for one reason or another. Most of the people that I have are retired and are physically unable to perform the work, so they hire me or another LCO. Most of them want a manicured yard and don't want to pay much for it.

I take great pride in the quality of my work and I refuse to do jobs where the owner is not willing to pay a little more for high quality service. Some of them ask for "just a mow" with no trimming or edging. I refuse to do these jobs each and every time I get a request. Sometimes customers ask why I'm so picky about the way the lawn looks after I'm finished. I tell these individuals that my finished work says something about me as a person and as a professional. As far as cussing out a customer... I don't do it... I don't even argue a point with them. If they think they're right then I leave it at that. If I get one that doesn't want to pay for a service after he or she signs a service agreement.. I file a small claims suit. Cussing and arguing is not necessary and produces nothing but anger. Court action or the threat of it usually produces a check.
 
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