Have you ever thought about the guy who acts like he is doing you a favor to let you do his lawn service? And thinks your work for him should be priced at your cost or below? Seems like a lot of those types are the college grad or MBA who gets a corporate mid-level management job with a decent salary, so at age 30 they are often doing better than their dad ever did, and better than many lco's are ever likely to do. And they all seem to have the idea they got where they are, solely because they are superior type specimens of humanity. I got news for them. Most of those guys have never created or built ANYTHING, especially the business they work for. Basically they got their positions because their parents sent them to college, and they stuck to it and got the piece of paper. Then their employer hired them on the assumption they are capable of reading and following instructions. That's all. They do not make decisions, they do not really manage, many of them do not actually supervise anyone. What they do, is sit at a desk and APPLY POLICY ACCORDING TO PRECEDENT. The policies, the precedents, and the business they work for were all created and built by better men than them, entrepreneurs LIKE US. That's right. WE are creators and builders of businesses, we take risks and make decisions, and we take the consequences for the bad moves. In my opinion, that makes us better men than many of them, no matter what inflated salary they get. BTW, some lco's in this area refer to the neighborhoods full of those people as MSDS neighborhoods. Remember the old redneck expresson for someone who is really stuck on themself? "He (or she) thinks his (her) sh!t don't stink." MSDS = "my sh!t don't stink"