worth the investment or dont bother?

Discussion in 'Starting a Lawn Care Business' started by bigw, Mar 13, 2008.

  1. bigw

    bigw LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,540

    I have a 60'' lazer and was considering a 3 bag ultra vac system for it. My question is do you think its worth the investment or will i probably not use it that much to justify the cost? I know it depends on this and that...just answer the dam question will ya lol.
  2. Weekes

    Weekes LawnSite Member
    Messages: 107

    Are you in an area were mulching is acceptable? If so mulch the heck out of everything, its better on cost and for environment. Here we bag it all so the better the bag setup the better cost effective it is for you.
  3. CDSlawn

    CDSlawn LawnSite Member
    Messages: 1

    We bought the dump bagger system for our Lazer and LOVE it! It's great for leaf cleanup and spring cleanup. Just charge a little extra for bagging if your customer wants it during regular cuttings. Between leaf/spring cleanup and extra for regular cuts you'll recoup the money invested.
  4. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,889

    the exmark ultravac is worth every penny
  5. mowing grass 1111

    mowing grass 1111 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 433

    have you thought about buying used .. i am on the fence about buying one also . my dealer wants $2,400 for a new unit ...thats alot cash considering i have never had a client ask me to bag or do leaf removal.
  6. bigw

    bigw LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,540

    to be honest none of my customers have asked me to bag yet either but then again i can just imagine them asking once i begin to mow them. Then again maybe not so im just trying to figure out if its worth it. Maybe i should wait and see what happens i guess. Thanks for the replies.
  7. theother

    theother LawnSite Member
    Messages: 25

    if you can afford the bagger id say go for it, they are nice to have especially when the lawns get high or you just want to do a nice cleanup... they are definately worth the money to have
  8. bruno_rs

    bruno_rs LawnSite Member
    Messages: 195

    hey big w, once again it depends upon your needs. just like another poster said, i (also) rarely catch. i run gator/mulching blades all season and would never go back to standard. if the growth is excessive, i raise the deck on the first run and hit it a second time to give a nice "clean" cut (of course charging alittle extra).

    one huge drawback with using gators is, when the grass is damp and/or wet the deck loads up and spits out clumps. for that reason, i don't cut in the rain and/or damp grass... works better for ME to delay the day rather than feeling compelled to be on a lawn @ 7am and spending the next 1-2 hours blowing around wet clumps. work smart not hard.

    i ABSOLUTELY agree the vacuum will be INVALUABLE when doing spring and ESPECIALLY fall cleanups... cuts your time significantly and leaves (no pun intended) a much cleaner look.

    hey while, on the subject of fall cleanups... you may want to invest in a leaf plow for your ztr. they are a necessity, especially for a one man operation. the leaf plow has cut my cleanup time by probably 40%... no S#!T! moreover, it saves you from fighting with a tarp, HAVING to employ someone to help and MOST importantly you're not dead (tired) at the end of the day... remember, work smart not hard! i'm a one man operation and you should see the looks i get from people AND 5-6 man lco crews driving past me ALONE on a 4-5 acre site... it's priceless. also and MOST important... i've gotten many jobs by home/business owners stopping and saying they couldn't help but notice me (alone) and after speaking with me, ask if i could do their place. i may not be as fast as some "crews" but in all honesty, with the equipment i have, i'm close AND everything i make... is mine... after uncle sam gets his!!! the key in any profession is, it's all about what you have and how you use it!

    years ago, i had a few guys work for me... unfortunately i spent more time fixing their mistakes, checking up on them and what it basically boiled down to (me) babysitting them... therefore my (own) productivity was (negatively) affected . i can get just as much done ,alone, when ALL is taken into account and no more worries and/or waiting around for one or more guys late for work, everyday of the week. moreover, i will only take on as much work as I can handle myself.

    hey good luck and remember, work smart not hard. have a good one.
  9. QualityLawnCare4u

    QualityLawnCare4u LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,758

    If you are going to bag on a regular bases it is worth it. However, if you don't have any request for it I would say no. I will not bag a yard unless I am held at gunpoint. I mulch all mine and it looks just as good as bagging. If you do decide to get a bagger I would recommend watching ebay or our for sale section, you can get one a lot cheaper than 2400! It would take a LOT of yards to justify 2400 for me.
  10. hackitdown

    hackitdown LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,621

    I bought one for my Lazer HP, and around here it is a must. I have a couple of customers who insist on bagging, and pay extra for it. Sometimes in mid summer it is actually quicker to bag because it saves on blowing, but not often. But around here it is a must-have for cleanups.

    I can take the tube and the impeller thing off in 1 minute if I need to switch to discharge in the field. I leave the frame of the collector and the bags on the machine and go.

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