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WTB 36 Stander!!!$$!!

Discussion in 'Marketplace' started by RiverCityLawnCare, Jul 14, 2012.

  1. bodaggin

    bodaggin LawnSite Member
    Messages: 96

    Ironically enough JDW I just ended up buying 2 GrandStands within the past half hour! Sorry! But thanks for the offer!

    Best of luck if you're trying to get rid of it. Thanks for checking out the thread to all.
  2. weaver

    weaver LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,393

    What size decks did you get on your machines? Only asking cause i'm interested in knowing how the 36's do myself.. Thanks..
  3. JDWalkbehind

    JDWalkbehind LawnSite Member
    Messages: 223

    No prob. If you know anyone looking for an exmark just pm me
  4. bodaggin

    bodaggin LawnSite Member
    Messages: 96

    They were 36'' GrandStand's Weaver. Sight-unseen but from a dealer. I haven't even used a stand on mower or a 36''.

    I have a lot of small yards, less than a half acre so I need something nimble, but that doesn't tire my guys out by walking. They looked like they fit the bill to prevent scalping with a narrower deck, get in to the big back yards, and to fit sideways on my trailer.

    My setup will have 1 GS 36'' and 2 TimeMaster 30'' for my yards. Should be able to cut some serious grass and for me, the small yards are where the money is at when you work out the numbers!

    Hope that helps!
  5. weaver

    weaver LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,393

    Well keep everyone informed if you can, cause i really have been thinking of getting a new myself.. How they are , handle and things like that.. Congrats on the mowers also...
  6. bodaggin

    bodaggin LawnSite Member
    Messages: 96

    I'll try to remember to check back here in the Spring. Hit the thread again and I'll put up and demo's or pics or info you want. I know what it is like to try and buy something without having a demo or seeing it in the real world. I'm in Canada, and our dealers don't carry half the products you guys get in the US so I try to do Web research like you are now!
  7. bodaggin

    bodaggin LawnSite Member
    Messages: 96

    So I just pulled the 36" Grandstands out of the storage unit and tried them in the trailer. They fit sideways on my 6 foot wide (68'' interior) trailer no problem. I can get them super snug up to the ramp too, probably 6-8 inches on the initial entry without even trying to shuffle them closer. Very happy about this!

    Obviously I haven't used them for mowing and really haven't even driven them but they look like super solid machines compared to the residential model I traded up from. I ran my Residential Zero Turn HARD and it stood up to the beating so I have no worries about these things with heavy steel and the Kawi engine.

    I can give you an actual review of them for getting in/out of gates, cutting ability etc if you want, but this was my main concern after buying them sight unseen.
  8. kawakx125

    kawakx125 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,130

    i have a 36'' RH stander, it's great for getting in backyards and is really maneuverable. the only thing to watch for on any 36'' stander is rutting, the tires simply aren't wide enough to support the weight. don't mow when its wet and change your pattern often!
  9. bodaggin

    bodaggin LawnSite Member
    Messages: 96

    After 2.5 years of use and abuse I wanted to post an update on the 36 inch standers. Listen up Toro!

    Firstly, they are the best thing out there in my opinion, however there are some things I would suggest Toro have engineering look at improving (if they haven't already).

    Problem 1, Platform: It breaks on the bend, but only on the right hand side. The only cause I can come up with is because of the pressure that goes into the right side of the platform when lifting the deck (Rapid Height adjustment is on right side). No problems with left hand side. I'm a light guy at 165lb so I don't think it is from weight. Originally I thought it was from heavy bumps stressing the frame but one would assume this would cause the left side to break as well, however only the right side breaks. Solution, thicker tube and/or rod in the stress points. Better deck lift assistance could be secondary solution.

    Problem 2, cutting "streaks": When striping back and forth, a streak of half cut grass will be left sticking up even with drastic overlap. The symptom is especially profound when cutting fine angel hair type grass. My diagnosis of the cause is the amount of weight put on the front tires. It seems the front tires pack the grass before it enters the deck and therefore it gets packed instead of cut. When a cutting pass occurs in the opposite direction, this packed grass gets disturbed and left upright and looking uncut. This is even with a nearly 6 inch overlap. It's particularly a problem on the 36" model because 36" is a narrow enough pass that having to excessively overlap greatly reduces productivity on medium sized yards. The only solutions I can come up with are staggering the tires inward (towards center) so they aren't at the extreme outside of the cutting pass. Less weight on the front tires may alleviate some of the symptom but I'm not sure it would solve it nor would it be a practical solution. It may take some critical thinking to solve.

    Suggestion 3, speed: I would recommend upgrading the speed possible by throwing a ZT 3400 on as an option. This would widen the mower's usability. The current "hot zone" style of property for this mower is 0-1A in size due to the 36" width. A faster speed would increase the larger property say 1.5A productivity negating the need for a second larger mower for many operators. Instead they could expand their fleet of GrandStands (Hi Toro, that means more money for you). Increased speed could also be achieved with larger tires.

    Suggestion 4, Airless rear tires: Michelin probably has exclusivity with John Deere for the Tweel, but an airless rear tire (even a competitor of the Tweel) would be substantial for this mower. Flats on a lawnmower are such a hassle. It's the one "breakdown" you can't limp home. I would try to work on a deal as quickly as possible.

    Like I say these mowers are the best out there but there's always room for improvement. Take the feedback from someone who has abused them and used them to their full limits. Thanks for a great mower and here's to making it better. For the consumers, here's what to look out for.
  10. TheLugNutZ

    TheLugNutZ LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 410

    ^ Thanks for the update.

    I am concerned about this as its almost time to move on from my tractor after 2 yrs of use. I dont do a lot of mowing, but most yards I care for are 0-0.5 acres so I really want to go with a 36in stander w/ deck height adjustment (negating the cheaper wright models) so I was leaning towards the grandstand a lot. Im concerned about 2 things mainly: 1 the uncut grass and having to do a 6in overlap, that SUCKS! Esp since I have a few bi-weekly accounts and I really dont want to have to triple cut them!

    And rutting issues with the small tires.

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