z950r hyd oil change

Gump_Runner

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Just like all the rest of them, they find a company who makes oil to their spec (specifically for the transmission specs), and then they test it to work, but that doesn't mean there aren't better options out there, or more specialized oils. The JD stuff obviously works, it's also expensive and proprietary.

Kawasaki has their own oil for their own engines, they simply have an oil manufacturer make it to their spec, they test it and call it good. I don't run that oil in my kawi motors though, because there's better options than a semi synthetic.

Same goes for my hydro's on my hustler, they recommend using hustler hydro fluid. I run the amsoil stuff. It's not only cheaper, but has been tested on hydrogears extensively and is not a rebranded bottle of castrol 20w50

The motorcycling world is the same way, funny that was mentioned.

Go buy yourself some honda GN4 to put in your bike for 10 bucks a qt. I'll put something else in for half the price that is going to be a better oil, it just won't have the name honda on it. same with yamalube, can am fluid and all the other ones that are labeled with a brand name. I've actually found in my atv's that Shell Rotella runs better with wet sump and wet clutches than the honda stuff does. I have seen less wear, better life, and smoother clutch using rotella vs the GN4. But the honda engineers want you to put int he red bottle on the trans side. because it's expensive, and is red in color. But the clutch manufacturer recommends shell rotella?
Well said.
 

Ridin' Green

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alright, back on topic and the two of you can block each other if need be...either way, quit cluttering discussions with your back and forth towards one another please

thanks
I am trying to help the OP with some facts as well as experience. I didn't come here and start anything. so please don't include me in that. MY replies have been to make sure that the OP is getting clear and accurate info regardless of what anyone else is trying to convey or state.
 

rippinryno

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As am I. I realize calling the JD oil "garbage" ruffled some feathers, I will take credit for that. My only intention was to imply that there's other options out there. I will say that I was pretty quickly attacked for the input I gave, more than likely because of my use of the word "garbage". That is probably a stretch. I think "nothing fancy" should have been the first choice I used. The discussion could be more civil if we can open up and realize not everybody has to agree on oil brands.
 

Turf Tracer

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Just use eXmark hydro oil. Not rebranded anything. Made for and to eXmark specs. Anti foaming full syn w/zinc. Never really need change it unless you got a bad seal
 

rippinryno

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Just use eXmark hydro oil. Not rebranded anything. Made for and to eXmark specs. Anti foaming full syn w/zinc. Never really need change it unless you got a bad seal
Likely made for the hydro gear specs and definitely rebranded. Get a look at the amsoil zero turn hydro oil. Cheaper and better than the $12 a qt exmark.
 

greenleafgreenscapes

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Amsoil is like all the other oil companies, they try to do an analysis of the oil but they cannot match the trace elements. They will tell you right out that they can come close, but not exact and the trace elememnts are the important ones.
Are you ******** enough to think that for a $3.00 dollar savings for each time I change filters and oil that Im not going to use my brands oil?
I keep my mowers for 3 year, and 3 hydro changes, so $11.00 dollars in oil roughly? You are ******** rippinryno.
 

greenleafgreenscapes

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The stars are because I called you r e t a r ded.
I have a 125hp tractor that I could save $48.00 on a hydraulic fluid change by using Amsoil vs Hy Gard. The transmission is $26,000 dollars, would you try to save $48.00?
Its insane to me people try to save pennies on oil and filters but spend dollars and motors and hydros.
 
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Turf Tracer

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eXmark oil not rebranded. Formulated specifically to eXmark specs.

Doing an eXperiment on a Tracer. Initial change at 250hrs now at 2800 hrs no further changes and just going to see how long it goes. Guessing it will go the distance of machine usability.
 

rippinryno

LawnSite Gold Member
Amsoil is like all the other oil companies, they try to do an analysis of the oil but they cannot match the trace elements. They will tell you right out that they can come close, but not exact and the trace elememnts are the important ones.
Are you ******** enough to think that for a $3.00 dollar savings for each time I change filters and oil that Im not going to use my brands oil?
I keep my mowers for 3 year, and 3 hydro changes, so $11.00 dollars in oil roughly? You are ******** rippinryno.
. You must have read “savings” as lessser quality. Amsoil has more testing on certain manufacturer equipment than the damm companies do. Do you run stihl 2 cycle because it’s got their name on it? Do you not agree that there are better oils for less? I keep my mowers and other motors for a long time, it’s not about saving, it’s about running quality fluids. You are wrong about the additives, especially for the hydro trans fluid. Amsoil knows what hydro gear calls for, they know what needs to be in the additive package.
 

Ridin' Green

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JD doesn't use hydro gear trannies as mentioned in your post above.

I do know for sure that JD is very tight lipped about the exact specs required for their equipment, so I wouldn't be too sure Amsoil can match them exactly.

Amsoil is a LOT more expensive than Hy Gard. I can buy a gallon of Hy Gard for what one quart of Amsoil costs.

As I said, I am an Amsoil fan, but there are some areas where sticking to the oem oil is wise, both from a performance and a cost perspective. JD service intervals after the initial 300 hour change are 500 hours, so don't try to tell us that their oils are inferior to anything.

You've turned this thread into a sales pitch for Amsoil when all the OP asked about was changing his fluid and filters and what else he should look for, not what other oil to use.
 

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