ZTR vs Outfront

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Norway911, Jul 11, 2002.

  1. Norway911

    Norway911 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 14

    I am preparing to purchase my first commercial mower shortly. I am looking at the Ferris IS 3000z 61", the IS 1000z 52", 1000Z 48", and the Pro Cut 20 61". I feel that my toughest decision is deciding wheather to go with the Z or the outfront. I know that each has it advantages. Right now I just mow part-time to keep busy, but hope to expand a little in the coming months and years.

    I like the idea of the compact 48" because I need to get in and out of a lot of tight places. I like the speed of the Z's over the 20, but I am told the the qaulity of cut is better on the 20 and that it will hold up better.

    I thought about a walk behind but right now my problem is that I currently don't have a lot of time to mow.

    There is also a Scag dealer nearby, how does Scag compare with Ferris? Should I demo them too? Both dealers are very close, only several miles so I would be able to have fast turnaround on repairs. Exmark is about twenty miles away.

    As far as prices, I am looking at $8000 for the 3000, $7000 for the IS 1000, and $6200 for the Pro Cut 20. I could also get the 1000z 48" for $5999, but this doesn't have the IS suspension.

    I hope to demo the Ferris machines shortly, what should I be looking for?

    Any help, info, or advice on this would be great!
  2. John Gamba

    John Gamba LawnSite Fanatic
    from ct
    Messages: 10,812

    Hello Norway911
    Try A Lazer Z After You have Tryed the Others. The 20 Miles Is worth It.
    Good Luck
    Johnny G.:D :D
  3. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,699

    I agree. Go get the Exmark Lazer Z. 20 miles is nothing. Exmark has a wider variety of mowers to pick from anyway. 44", 48", 2 52"s, 60" and 72". The Exmarks have a quality of cut that is as good as any and better than most.
  4. Ax Man

    Ax Man LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 446

    Don't bother listening to the bandwagon boys.
    test all the mower types and brands you can and match them to your properties.
    An advantage that outfronts may offer is ability to trim closer, which will reduce sring trim times, and better deck movement to follow rolling terrain. But all of the machines (and operators) are different so test all you can.
    Have fun!
  5. awm

    awm LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,354

    theres a lot good about an out front.
    same can be said of the midmount.
    a lot has to do with knowledge of the machine which comes with time to most.
    im on the bandwagon tho here.
    for trim work ,speed,durability and
    ease of operation id pick the midmount.
    mines a lazer,and unless we are talkin tv an aircondition,i wouldnt really want to change a thing.
    ps trim with a ztr is something that would be more important to a solo operator ,who doesnt have some one
    trimmiing while he is mowing. i
    dont and i have eliminated a lot of trim work . u get pretty fast at it with practice.
    luck to u
  6. bubble boy

    bubble boy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,020

    well, i'm not a bandwagon boy, whatever the **** that is...

    i do know z's are made for speed, so if youre props open and large you could cut lots of time.

    if they are tighter, an outfront is very maneoverable and still quite fast.

    sounds like youre willing to spend the bucks. a WB would save you some money though, and you could always pop a proslide on.

    and i have found, and been told by dealers selling both, that the exmarks are somewhat superior. the ferris still would be a fine choice.
  7. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,699

    Ax Man wrote:

    Don't bother listening to the bandwagon boys.

    Sorry, I'm not a bandwagon boy pal. I speak from experience. I own an Exmark. I will put this mower up against any other rotary mower you can find. I have only had to replace one spindle under warranty (it was past one year and the dealer still paid for the labor) since it was broken in. Like I said before the cut quality is second to none.

    Do a search for Exmark and count the number of positives and negatives for Exmark and you will see why so many people jump on the "bandwagon". Then do the same for Scag and Ferris.
  8. 65hoss

    65hoss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,360

    I guess I should jump on the bandwagon also. haha.

    Exmark makes awesome mowers. The speed and cut quality can't be beat. The factory support is great. Heck, they are right here on the forum to ask any questions if you need help.

    I put my Lazer HP 52" everywhere. Added trim time for me is nothing. The speed and quality make up for more than the added 5 seconds in a corner.
  9. awm

    awm LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,354

    65 the front mount i hads trim side was so much further
    from my eyes,that i dont remember being able to be as precise.[ dang,i used dat wd.:D ] as im able to with the exmark.
    course my eyes have been better.
    i put mine just about any d-- where also . thats why i cant figure ever going to nothing else out their now.ill wait for the lazer cut i guess. get it lazer cut ahu ahu.:) :rolleyes::eek:
  10. Norway911

    Norway911 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 14

    Thanks for the help...

    What about the prices though (listed in the original post)?? Do they seem right/good? How will Exmark compare price wise and which do you think will be most relieable? Thanks!

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