Trying both...really all three...the gehl is a takeuhoouchie...or least that's my understanding....:weightlifter:
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Tim,
Tell us what you think of the CAT. I think your the only one on this board to run a C series. Being a B series owner I would like to hear what you think of the upgrades. Granted the size your demoing and the size you own are not the same, but I am curious what your thoughts are.
The TK cab is big and I agree bigger than needed. It seems like it turns itself into a drum effect as far as noise after the machine gets some hours on them. It seems like all of TK's cabs are built the same. Basic, simple to the point of being rudimentary. That is not necessarily a bad thing. Depends on who you are and what your looking for. What I like about the CAT track system is the fact that it is quiet and vibration free.
Tell us what you think of the CAT. I think your the only one on this board to run a C series. Being a B series owner I would like to hear what you think of the upgrades. Granted the size your demoing and the size you own are not the same, but I am curious what your thoughts are.
The TK cab is big and I agree bigger than needed. It seems like it turns itself into a drum effect as far as noise after the machine gets some hours on them. It seems like all of TK's cabs are built the same. Basic, simple to the point of being rudimentary. That is not necessarily a bad thing. Depends on who you are and what your looking for. What I like about the CAT track system is the fact that it is quiet and vibration free.
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Hi Shane hope your season is going well, its so dry here in Indy I'm taking a beating on my landscaping maint. work...plenty of time to demo...if there was a huge price difference the Gehl might be an option, but after running it for a hour or so...it's exactly like you said...a drum effect, also a quick turn or bump and you could break a bone in that cab:laugh: ...not really a fair demo as the CAT is a 90hp machine, but other than my ears popping, the cab is as nice as I've seen and this thing is a hoss....granted the dry conditions here are ideal, it pushes and lifts fantastic, the TK does the same but with less contol at the pilots and very rough ride, but what the heck...if its 12-15K cheaper...its an option..the cat's electric over hydro..( lets see how it holds out in the long run) is a winner, most precise control I've ever used..I'm not really looking to purchase yet, but my 257B is a gutless wonder, and I would not buy a machine again with anything under 80hp...give it six months and see what people are saying about the CAT and maybe next spring I'll jump....
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I see what you mean.
My condensor is insid the boom at the right rear inside were the Gehl nameplate is.
The Tackeuchi machines are noisy on the inside I will agree.
The ride is really not bad when the ground is not so hard from lack of rain.
They also run metal against metal on the rollers which virtually eliminates track damage from rocks getting in the undercarraige but transmits alot of harshness.
How do the 2 machines bucket curl power compare?
My condensor is insid the boom at the right rear inside were the Gehl nameplate is.
The Tackeuchi machines are noisy on the inside I will agree.
The ride is really not bad when the ground is not so hard from lack of rain.
They also run metal against metal on the rollers which virtually eliminates track damage from rocks getting in the undercarraige but transmits alot of harshness.
How do the 2 machines bucket curl power compare?
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Well, Im a big Cat fan and like the looks on about everything on this machine but the undercarriage. I mean looking at it compared to the Gehl well it just looks plain cheap. Maybe it would look better in person I dont know. The parts dont like like there built out of very heavy material and the rollers appear to still be made out of rubber or simular material. The top sproket final drive looks like a nightmare waiting to happen. Looks like it would hold every piece of mud and sticks that it came across. The hole undercarriage just looks like it would fill full with material easily. Maybe Im being a little hard on Cat but to be honest I expected more from them.
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Maybe things would clean out better than I think since there is allot of open room. Just my first impression of it though it does not look like a good design. Yeah I want to see what it can do.
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Same here...gotta get it in the mud...it can't be any worst than the old undercarriage to clean out:hammerhead:
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I also noticed the Gehl is a radial lift and the Cat is a Vertical lift. Do you think you can get by with a Radial. About every new machine sold around here in the past several years has been a Vertical lift. I know the Radial are better for grading but the Verticals have come along way.
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The gehl radial lift has the reach of most vertical lifts. The power is unbelievable and the view from the cab is panoramic compared to the cat.
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I ran the clt 70 this year when i was deciding what to buy, along with the cat 287B and 277B. the gehl was a beast of a machine and not doubt would be a very durable machine. how ever i felt like i was on our old MF track loader when i was on it. I defiantly needed my headphones. i ran it for about a week and them got back in another 277B and it was jumping in a cadilac. if i was sending this machine out with my crew to use i would defiantly go with the gehl, but for an owner operator the cat is so smooth and quite. i know here as long as your buying a another cat the cat dealer can make you an offer to good to refuse. i bought used and got a better interest rate than most company's offered on new.
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Have you tried the C series...IMO the view is the same of both.....the cat doesn't jar your teeth loose like the gehl....
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After reading all these comments I think I need too get rid of the Takeuchi that gives no trouble ,but has a loud cab and a rough ride and get one of those Cats so I can eat my chicken wings and drink my tea while working.
All the complaints everyone had with the previous Cats seem to be solved and ride quality has seem too have replaced production and durabilty as needed items in a peice of equipment.
I guess my next purchase will be based off of the size of the tv screen.:hammerhead:
All the complaints everyone had with the previous Cats seem to be solved and ride quality has seem too have replaced production and durabilty as needed items in a peice of equipment.
I guess my next purchase will be based off of the size of the tv screen.:hammerhead:
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I guess you didn't read the part about give it six months and see how it holds up
...these are just my opinions from running them side by side...have you?????..I would still like to try a deere and case....I gotta go...having direct tv installed on my new cat...
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I was kidding around a little.
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Actually my Cat guy called me today.DeJaVu huh.
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I priced a smaller Cat MTL this spring and it was about 15 grand higher than what I was looking at on a new loaded Bobcat.
I may have posted this elsewhere but a friend who has both Bobcat and Cat machines in a busy construction co has told me how he had to have the U/C replaced in the Cat, three times!
I feel more productive with some added creature comforts on my new machine, and I bet the ride on the new Cats is heavenly. I guess it comes down to how often (if ever) you will be working with crushed limestone base. I would think the Cat (ASV) u/c would hold up ok if you keep it clean and don't make it eat gravel.
I may have posted this elsewhere but a friend who has both Bobcat and Cat machines in a busy construction co has told me how he had to have the U/C replaced in the Cat, three times!
I feel more productive with some added creature comforts on my new machine, and I bet the ride on the new Cats is heavenly. I guess it comes down to how often (if ever) you will be working with crushed limestone base. I would think the Cat (ASV) u/c would hold up ok if you keep it clean and don't make it eat gravel.
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15K...wow....I agree with the cat problems mentioned, for 15K and can do without the plasma:laugh:
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