Thats what my pool is.. I have never done anything with bullnose or any other type of coping around a pool that the pool company did not install for us to work up to. I have a concrete pool deck at my house with a vinyl liner. If I wanted to replace all the concrete with pavers, I do understand how the pool was constructed and the supporting straps that go out from the sides of the pool etc. I just am not sure how to deal with the piece the liner snaps into which the plastic bullnose now sits.. Right now the piece is inserted into the concrete. It seems I have to be half hardscaper and half pool construction company. Can someone help me with where the two of these merge?
Coping around a vinyl liner pool.
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Thats what my pool is.. I have never done anything with bullnose or any other type of coping around a pool that the pool company did not install for us to work up to. I have a concrete pool deck at my house with a vinyl liner. If I wanted to replace all the concrete with pavers, I do understand how the pool was constructed and the supporting straps that go out from the sides of the pool etc. I just am not sure how to deal with the piece the liner snaps into which the plastic bullnose now sits.. Right now the piece is inserted into the concrete. It seems I have to be half hardscaper and half pool construction company. Can someone help me with where the two of these merge?
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Yea its decent... no cracks.. a couple pieces have lifted an inch or so, but hacent cracked... But since the liner lip is seated in the plastic coping, which is then ( I believe) inserted into the wet concrete, I dont know where to start.
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We work with 2-4 pools a month, I have alot of knowledge about pool construction.
Correct, the plastic coping (and on some older vinyl pools, the coping is aluminum) is seated IN the concrete.
If you remove that existing concrete deck - you will interfere with the plastic coping. For those new to this - that coping is what anchors the vinyl liner to the pool structure.
Also, the concrete decking is supported by steel braceing around the entire perimeter of the pool. So, if you take the concrete up -you may find the ground to be quite settled under it. The steel bracing is attached to the supports that the metal sides are anchored to.
From my experience around pools (vinyl, concrete, & gunite) - I WOULD NOT take up that concrete decking. If you want to enhance the decking you can do an overlay of pavers ONTOP of the concrete, this way you do not interfere with the coping and the liner.
This pic is a job where they had they typical 3' concrete decking around the pool. Do left the decking fully intact.
I'll have to look, there is a 48% chance I may have pics of one of our pool projects showing the concrete molded into the coping.
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Here's another vinyl pool, with a coping MORTARED to the decking:
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And I sent you a PM. Only stating this here because many times I have messages and I'm not aware of it.
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Clarification -
My above post may mislead people.
The decking around concrete and gunite pools is not part of the pool's header (walls). If the pool is gunite or concrete, you can take the concrete decking up.
For vinyl - you're opening up a can of worms if you take the concrete decking up, and I do not advise doing so.
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Thanks a lot guys. I did think about an overlay.. I just couldnt picture the new capping/coping working with the existing. With that picture it helps. I to was worried about taking up the concrete.. I think I can fix the lifted pieces and overlay (althought I know somewhere down the line it is all going to shift again.)
I'm in agreement with DVS. If the concrete deck is in good shape, leave it.
If it's in bad shape, then you're best to have a pool construction guy fix/consult on it, then veneer it.
As you see from DVS pictures, you can't even tell it's a retrofit
I would go to a garden supplier and buy a few different types and try them for looks.
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DVS... what is the technique/specifications for mortaring down the coping.. I never could quite wrap my head around how that holds... Also how do you account for the mortar raising the coping, which then changes the elevation for the pavers that need to be on the fixed concrete pool deck, beddding sand?
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Yew gotta clean dat concrete up real gud with a cleaner made for prepping concrete for masonry applications. I furgit wud its culled. Has the word "etch" N it.
We then will have between 3/4" to no more than 1.5" of bedding sand over the existing concrete. The depth of the bedding sand is contigent to the thickness of the coping.
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Can you take a pic of the coping? How old is this liner? How old is the pool.
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I guess there are extensions for the skimmer clean-outs?
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Yes there are. Along with a choice of beige or grey covers.
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I recently lost a paver job around a pool because the other person I was bidding against said it was absolutely no problem to remove the decking around a vinyl pool.
:clapping::clapping: i hope he got the job! hahaha.
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Haha!!! Thats funny!
But it really is "no problem" removing the concrete! That's easy! I just hope the owner doesn't mind when the liner slides to the bottom :drinkup:
If that job was near you, you should try to keep an eye on the progress. If the owner is not yanking your chain and is serious about moving forward - that contractor is going to find himself in some serious trouble! :laugh:
Seriously, try to keep us posted!
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Job is fairly close, I will certainly keep you posted.
The worst part is the husband got all cocky with me and told me I didn't know what I was talking about, this was even after referencing him to a few pool builders websites regarding this issue.
I am more anxious to know what contractor is doing the work.
The worst part is the husband got all cocky with me and told me I didn't know what I was talking about, this was even after referencing him to a few pool builders websites regarding this issue.
I am more anxious to know what contractor is doing the work.
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