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If you are primarily dealing with Bermuda/zoysia then idk. In my experience with Bermuda growth regulators or frequent mowing increase the thickness and health more than anything.

If I could reduce rates and thereby costs, that'd be great. What I'm really interested in is the lawns I take care of being thicker, healthier and better looking than my competitors while not breaking the bank. From a business standpoint, that's what will help me the most in the extremely competitive market I am in.
 
If you are primarily dealing with Bermuda/zoysia then idk. In my experience with Bermuda growth regulators or frequent mowing increase the thickness and health more than anything.
Yes, I am dealing with primarily bermuda/zoysia. Frequent mowing does help but we have a lot of new construction using poor soils for fill then laying sod with a thin layer of topsoil on top of that.Extremely difficult to get a quality lawn from that sometimes. I am thinking that the roots have be maximized to get what I am looking for on the top side. Growth regulators are out of the question for me. Very touchy and exact use can be critical.
 
I've considered buying the N-EXT products next year as a home owner. I have a couple test plots so was going to try them there first and see if I can see a big difference or not before I go all in. I have a 20k sqft yard so wouldn't be cheap. Have also considered a granular Humic product like Humic DG.
 
I've considered buying the N-EXT products next year as a home owner. I have a couple test plots so was going to try them there first and see if I can see a big difference or not before I go all in. I have a 20k sqft yard so wouldn't be cheap. Have also considered a granular Humic product like Humic DG.
You can mix up your own humic and kelp and spray it on your yard for a lot less than they are charging. You are essentially being charged to ship water
 
Check out carbon x fertilizer for new construction, uses bio char as the carrier for macro/micro and has rgs in it. Should really build soil in those situations quickly. I have talked to the owners and they are committed to create a quality product that is not expensive and competitive with current granular options.

https://carbonearth.co

Yes, I am dealing with primarily bermuda/zoysia. Frequent mowing does help but we have a lot of new construction using poor soils for fill then laying sod with a thin layer of topsoil on top of that.Extremely difficult to get a quality lawn from that sometimes. I am thinking that the roots have be maximized to get what I am looking for on the top side. Growth regulators are out of the question for me. Very touchy and exact use can be critical.
 
You can mix up your own humic and kelp and spray it on your yard for a lot less than they are charging. You are essentially being charged to ship water
Where are you getting your supply? Rgs is cheaper than making my own from Helena.

Just saw where you were getting it from amazon. I'd be interested In Products bought but doubt they could provide my supply.

Sulfur free black strap molasses is what you want I think. 1 pt - 1 qt per acre maybe? It provides a good source for microbes.
 
Check out carbon x fertilizer for new construction, uses bio char as the carrier for macro/micro and has rgs in it. Should really build soil in those situations quickly. I have talked to the owners and they are committed to create a quality product that is not expensive and competitive with current granular options.

https://carbonearth.co
I'm looking forward to this product. I hope it is as good as they say it is. I like the fact that it comes with some of the micros. I'm a homeowner with tons of fill dirt as topsoil in my neighborhood.
 
Yes, I am dealing with primarily bermuda/zoysia. Frequent mowing does help but we have a lot of new construction using poor soils for fill then laying sod with a thin layer of topsoil on top of that.Extremely difficult to get a quality lawn from that sometimes. I am thinking that the roots have be maximized to get what I am looking for on the top side. Growth regulators are out of the question for me. Very touchy and exact use can be critical.
RGS 3oz/1000 and AIR8 6oz/1000 will run bout $.80/1000 for both! I can say one thing I will be looking to add this mix to a couple rds!
 
RGS 3oz/1000 and AIR8 6oz/1000 will run bout $.80/1000 for both! I can say one thing I will be looking to add this mix to a couple rds!
Is that purchasing by the 5 gal bucket or by the tote?
 
Is that purchasing by the 5 gal bucket or by the tote?
RGS 2.5 gal jugs comes out to about $11.10/gal, @1 gal/acre

Air8 2.5 gal jugs comes out to about $9/gal, @265oz/acre

More you buy the less per gal you pay, but the shipping is what tears you a new corn shoot until you get to 5000 gals then its free!! My math may be off a few pennies either way, so don't hold me hostage on it!
 
RGS 2.5 gal jugs comes out to about $11.10/gal, @1 gal/acre

Air8 2.5 gal jugs comes out to about $9/gal, @265oz/acre

More you buy the less per gal you pay, but the shipping is what tears you a new corn shoot until you get to 5000 gals then its free!! My math may be off a few pennies either way, so don't hold me hostage on it!
Came across these recipe's for your own concoctions in my explorations. A little more trouble but would save you huge on shipping...and overall costs for that matter. Just thought I'd share

https://aroundtheyard.com/index.php...w=article&id=154:soil-conditioner-and-kelp-help-plus-humates&catid=9&Itemid=117
 
Rgs is about $9 per gallon in tote price. Think 9.50 for 5 gallon pails. Not sure in 2.5 but that seems more for diy guys.

Not sure about freight but the way it’s going it may be better to buy now than later
 
RGS 2.5 gal jugs comes out to about $11.10/gal, @1 gal/acre

Air8 2.5 gal jugs comes out to about $9/gal, @265oz/acre

More you buy the less per gal you pay, but the shipping is what tears you a new corn shoot until you get to 5000 gals then its free!! My math may be off a few pennies either way, so don't hold me hostage on it!
They are located 30 miles from me :walking:
 
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Your dead on with the recipe's
Just another thing to think about in the wonderful world of lawn care!
Exactly! From what I saw of that recipe and just some quick figures in my head, I can mix a bunch of that for cheap! You can always do some tweaking

One thing I've got a steady supply of around here is empty 2.5 gal jugs and tap water!
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Exactly! From what I saw of that recipe and just some quick figures in my head, I can mix a bunch of that for cheap! You can always do some tweaking

One thing I've got a steady supply of around here is empty 2.5 gal jugs and tap water!
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I thought I'd bring this thread back up because I've done some checking on product and I can buy product to mix my own "biostimulant" in expensively. I have jugs so that's not a problem but thought it might be easier to add appropriate amounts of product(parts of the recipe) directly to tanks and skip the pre-mixing in jugs part of the process. I have excellent agitation in all of my tanks.

I was wondering if any of you had any experience doing this or could see any problem doing this. One product (Humic Acid) is a soluble powder and one is a liquid (Kelp Extract).Neither would be at a ratio that would be difficult to get into suspension given the agitation my tanks have.

Doing it this way would save me hassle(pre-mixing) It would also save me storage space as well as expense over buying it in liquid form from companies that ship the final product mixed in liquid form ready to dilute and use...
Thoughts?
 
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