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Do these valves have the same internals? They look very similar but I have never encountered aN ez flow before and they are not stocked locally. I have been asked to service a system that is having trouble with several ez flo valves sticking open. The trouble is that the system is on a private island that I am not sure I can even bring my truck to although they do have a landing craft boat. I want to be as best prepared as possible because running to the supply house is not an option.
 
Out here, in hard water land, the solenoid discharge port on these type of valves can get clogged with hard water deposits.
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Interesting... (he says in his best Spock imitation)
I wonder how 'numerically' hard that water is. Obviously that's a rotten place for deposits to build up. Is there a mfr date on that valve? The solenoid would make it at least 20 years old, maybe more than 30 years old, using the date of Hardie buying out Richdel as a benchmark.
 
Sorry Boots, this is the best picture I have of the solenoid. I have a date of 2011 for the photo, but heck if I can remember the repair job.

Our local water purveyor shows hardness levels at ranges from 15-20 gpg, but water well systems around here can be much higher.

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I recognize it now as original Richdel R204A, circa early 1980's. Too bad about the mineral deposits. I bet they could've cleared away with vinegar fed down the little stainless steel tube that's pressed into the body.
 
so toro has a new valve called ez plo pro that copies an irritrol valve??? yep..4 letter word
It isn't new by a long shot. Irritrol products don't show up on retail shelves, but Toro does have a retail presence, so they sell the 2400 they are already manufacturing with a different cover ring and color of plastic, and ir's all good.
 
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Update: I ordered new toro valves just to be safe and just as boots said they were the same as 2400T. I went out today to do the job and all went well. They had 4 zones sticking open after some well work was done. It seems they disturbed a bunch of rust and sent it down the line to the sprinklers system. Recommended a filter and was back on the boat to the mainland.
 
Update: I ordered new toro valves just to be safe and just as boots said they were the same as 2400T. I went out today to do the job and all went well. They had 4 zones sticking open after some well work was done. It seems they disturbed a bunch of rust and sent it down the line to the sprinklers system. Recommended a filter and was back on the boat to the mainland.
That's a valve that does not love debris in the water, probably because the central tube has more surface area than a pin in a pin-type valve, so more room for jam-ups.
 
Do these valves have the same internals? They look very similar but I have never encountered aN ez flow before and they are not stocked locally. I have been asked to service a system that is having trouble with several ez flo valves sticking open. The trouble is that the system is on a private island that I am not sure I can even bring my truck to although they do have a landing craft boat. I want to be as best prepared as possible because running to the supply house is not an option.
That's so cool . My business owner use to do things like this- take paid ferry rides to go work high end systems from large business owners. . Me now, those type of customers want nothing to do with the businesss/company and everything to do with me which I simply dont have the time.

To me I would be as personably and presentable as possible- Hey I'm off island and I'm working out of the realm of what I consider a standardize process. I'm limited to what can be done. I think it would be important to first review/assess the job and then complete after the work involved is presented to the customer. This may seem silly- but this process applied to everyone prevents situations- oddball or not like this from happening
 
Sorry Boots, this is the best picture I have of the solenoid. I have a date of 2011 for the photo, but heck if I can remember the repair job.

Our local water purveyor shows hardness levels at ranges from 15-20 gpg, but water well systems around here can be much higher.

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Miss seeing ya man! I absolutely loved our visit years ago and will always take to heart on your advice! I don't know how many thousands of richdels/2400's I've pulled apart/ mixed together to make a working valve but I have never seen a white richdel, only black!

I would love to see a link or the metrics to learn the acutal hardness of water of you have a link? The Richdel and 2400 newer models- By far in my experience collect the most amount of biological/ organic debris onto the diaphram causing them to stick
 
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That's so cool . My business owner use to do things like this- take paid ferry rides to go work high end systems from large business owners. . Me now, those type of customers want nothing to do with the businesss/company and everything to do with me which I simply dont have the time.

To me I would be as personably and presentable as possible- Hey I'm off island and I'm working out of the realm of what I consider a standardize process. I'm limited to what can be done. I think it would be important to first review/assess the job and then complete after the work involved is presented to the customer. This may seem silly- but this process applied to everyone prevents situations- oddball or not like this from happening
These folks are very aware of how difficult it is to work on their property and I was told in no uncertain terms to make sure that I bill accordingly.
 
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