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Anyone dislike Stihl's Easy2Start feature?

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#1 ·
Looking for a new string trimmer. Leaning toward Stihl.

I am an able-bodied male in my early 30's. Pull starting trimmers and lawnmowers are usually not a problem, so I am not really that swayed by an easier start. However, the trimmer I am considering (FS 56 C-E) has a Easy2Start feature.

Normally, I wouldn't think much about it because, while it isn't a problem, easier is easier, right? However, I read in the manual that the Easy2Start feature requires a slow, steady pull instead of a quick pull.

I wonder if that becomes a problem when you are wanting to "start on the fly". For instance, you have been working already and had to shut it off for a second, and now are ready to start it again. You are already strapped in and just want to reach back, give it a quick jerk and get going. Wouldn't a slow pull work against you, since you are just holding it in midair?

Or am I overthinking this?
 
#2 ·
I think you're over thinking this.
I haven't had any issues starting my normal Stihl trimmers, and don't own an ez2start, but I've played with one in a showroom.
When you pull the string, it winds a spring. At the end of the pull, the spring is unleashed, and that spins the engine a little faster than you can with just your arm. I guess you could damage it by giving it a normal forceful pull, but you wouldn't do that since you're not fighting the engine compression during the pull. It feels quite different.
 
#3 ·
I think you're over thinking this.
I haven't had any issues starting my normal Stihl trimmers, and don't own an ez2start, but I've played with one in a showroom.
When you pull the string, it winds a spring. At the end of the pull, the spring is unleashed, and that spins the engine a little faster than you can with just your arm. I guess you could damage it by giving it a normal forceful pull, but you wouldn't do that since you're not fighting the engine compression during the pull. It feels quite different.
Thanks for the reply. I guess that's my worry. I am worried that my natural reaction will be to give it a quick yank and tear something up.
 
#5 ·
I don't think its fragile. I'm just happy with how my Stihl equipment starts.
They say not to give a regular rope starter too quick a pull either, or the rope can break if you regularly pull it to the end.

You should go to the dealer and give it a spin. Most dealers will be happy to demonstrate a Stihl product, and they've probably got one gassed up and ready to test drive.
You may find you really like it. I don't dislike it, its just not worth it to me.
 
#6 ·
Thanks. Yeah, I guess I need to call around and see if they have one gassed up.

I don't feel the need to have an easy2start either. The only reason I am thinking about one is the particular model I am looking at only comes with that feature. I am looking for a residential straight shaft string trimmer with bicycle handle bars in stihl brand. Therefore, my cheapest option is the FS 56 CE ($279) or I could pay an extra $50 for the FS 90. I'd like to save the $50, but not if the starting mechanism is going to be a problem.
 
#8 ·
From what I see the 90 is a big step up. That puts you into the "pro" level of equipment, and the 90 is a 4-mix engine.
I wish you were local. I'd sell you a hardly used FS110 for way less.

Any reason you want the bicycle handle? I know its better for brush cutting, but the consensus here seems to be that it gets annoying for normal trimming.
 
#24 ·
If you're an able bodied guy carrying a little fs56 shouldn't be an issue. Definitely don't get the bike bar thing, it gets in the way of using the tool to it's full capacity. For $50 more definitely get the fs90 and grab a speed feed 400 head to go on it. Worth every penny of the extra money.
 
#11 ·
I use the FS90 & 110 on a daily basis, and have used a friends Easy2Start unit, and for overall use I'd take the FS90 any day. Great trimmer. I like it better that the 110. It's easy to start (easy pull) and I've never had a problem with it in 3 years use. The Easy2Start was OK I guess, but I just never quite got used to it. Just a personal thing I guess. If it's a Stihl you can't go too wrong. :)
 
#12 ·
I will tell you that the KM/FS 90 doesn't spin the brush blade like the 55, so if you have plans to use brush blade I would get the 55...actually I would get a 110. For easy of start you can't beat the 4 mix...choke, pull and start...I have never used primer bulb.
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#13 ·
I will tell you that the KM/FS 90 doesn't spin the brush blade like the 55, so if you have plans to use brush blade I would get the 55...actually I would get a 110. For easy of start you can't beat the 4 mix...choke, pull and start...I have never used primer bulb.
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I use the primer out of habit (and if you run the tank dry, its a good idea), but the hardest part about cold starting my KM-110, is opening the choke after it starts.
I choke it, pull the cord, and immediately open the choke, and it fires up every time. If I leave it choked for more than a few seconds, it stalls out, and then I need to unchoke and pull again. Never has it failed to run after the second pull.
The 4-mix is great, and doesn't need a warmup like my fc-85 did.
 
#15 ·
I use the primer out of habit (and if you run the tank dry, its a good idea), but the hardest part about cold starting my KM-110, is opening the choke after it starts.
I choke it, pull the cord, and immediately open the choke, and it fires up every time. If I leave it choked for more than a few seconds, it stalls out, and then I need to unchoke and pull again. Never has it failed to run after the second pull.
The 4-mix is great, and doesn't need a warmup like my fc-85 did.
This is correct...why do they recess the choke? If you have gloves on its even more difficult!
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#16 ·
I use the primer out of habit (and if you run the tank dry, its a good idea), but the hardest part about cold starting my KM-110, is opening the choke after it starts.
I choke it, pull the cord, and immediately open the choke, and it fires up every time. If I leave it choked for more than a few seconds, it stalls out, and then I need to unchoke and pull again. Never has it failed to run after the second pull.
The 4-mix is great, and doesn't need a warmup like my fc-85 did.
I have the FS45...not Easy2Start...and above is exactly how it goes ...EVERY time. Meaning...I choke it...pull the cord a time or two...and it sort of starts but stalls out before I can even get to open the choke. So then I open the choke and she fires up. And THAT is why the Easy2Start exists in the first place. Good news is it starts reliably...but very quirkily and in a way I had to figure out on my own...manual doesn't tell you this.

If a manufacturer builds a feature called EASY2Start...that implies that models without it...well...AREN'T (easy to start). To me...any engine should run long enough with the choke on so that the operator can at least have time (a few seconds) to open the choke.

If Easy2Start avoids playing games with the choke/start as noted above...I might try it..but not at a huge premium in price.
 
#17 ·
I have the FS45...not Easy2Start...and above is exactly how it goes ...EVERY time. Meaning...I choke it...pull the cord a time or two...and it sort of starts but stalls out before I can even get to open the choke. So then I open the choke and she fires up. And THAT is why the Easy2Start exists in the first place. Good news is it starts reliably...but very quirkily and in a way I had to figure out on my own...manual doesn't tell you this.

If a manufacturer builds a feature called EASY2Start...that implies that models without it...well...AREN'T (easy to start). To me...any engine should run long enough with the choke on so that the operator can at least have time (a few seconds) to open the choke.

If Easy2Start avoids playing games with the choke/start as noted above...I might try it..but not at a huge premium in price.
Does the Easy2Start feature change the choke/fuel approach, or does it just make the pull easier?

I guess my worry is that part break. More parts break more.
 
#18 ·
I have an FS 90 trimmer and love it. I have used a blade on it to clear small brush without issue. It starts easier than any trimmer I've ever had. I've never regretted paying more for better equipment, but I have often regretted buying the cheap stuff. Even for homeowner use professional grade equipment is worth the investment.
 
#21 ·
I have a ms251c chainsaw with easy2start. I hate it. I’ve had problems since day one . It’s like it’s locked up if it sits over night. The only way I can get it to start is to take out the spark plug, crank it a few times. Then it will start. My dealer said to bring it inside over night, it was too cold. This happens even when it’s 90 degrees out side.
 
#22 ·
Posting to an old thread, started 13 years ago.....last reply was 7 years ago....
 
#27 ·
Hi, I'm new to this site and have a problem with my ErgoStart on my FS56C strimmer. The spring at the bottom of the housing, the 'rewind spring' - part no. 4180 190 0600 - needs replacing because it’s become part unwound And I can't remove it from the base of the housing because one end of the spring coil is jammed under its housing.
If anyone on here can help regarding installation of a new rewind spring, I'd be very grateful. Is it simply a case of fitting it underneath the other components of the ErgoStart assembly?
I look forward to receiving any help at all about this.