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As gas prices go up lets place the blame where it belongs.

5.4K views 42 replies 11 participants last post by  FIMCO-MEISTER  
#1 ·
Where there is no conflict there is no interest. I am a shareholder in Exxon/Mobil and my Dad worked at Mobil for over 40 years in exploration. Frankly it is one of the finest run businesses in the country without any of the executive greed one sees in many of them.

Don't get sucked in by the anti-capitalist rants against big oil.

http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.c....com/2011/04/28/exxonmobil-earnings-the-real-story-you-wont-hear-in-washington/

During the first three months of this year, for every gallon of gasoline and other products we refined and sold in the United States, we earned about 7 cents. Compare that to the 40 to 60 cents per gallon that went from gasoline consumers to the government (state and federal) in gasoline taxes.
Government policies did not cause the shale gas revolution in this country – but they could stop it in its tracks.

Policymakers need to look carefully at the facts and avoid a bias against natural gas and fossil fuel development in favor of far more costly energy sources that are already receiving massive subsidies.

In fact, we’ve already spent more on alternative energy subsidies than we did on the Manhattan and Apollo projects combined. And what do we have to show for it? Unreliable and uneconomic energy sources that still can’t compete – even at today’s prices.

On the other hand, natural gas is affordable, available – and doesn’t need taxpayer subsidies.
 
#3 ·
If you'd bother to read the article i won't have to keep showing snippets.

Frankly we should be thankful this fabulous American located company is bring money back to the US.

ExxonMobilÂ’s earnings are from operations in more than 100 countries around the world. During the first quarter, more than three-quarters of our operating earnings came from outside of the United States.

The part of ExxonMobil’s business that refines and sells gasoline, diesel and other products in the United States represents less than 6 percent – or 6 cents on the dollar – of our earnings.

Why so little? Because we actually buy more crude oil to refine into gasoline and diesel in the U.S. than we produce ourselves. And these purchases are made on the open market at the prevailing rates.
 
#4 ·
Im not defending big oil companies, but I have never really understood the "finger pointing" that goes on with these guys. They are generally mega corporations who are in business to make a profit. Not sure how they really shoulder the blame, every business I have EVER heard of will increase their pricing model as long as the demand is there to pay for it. The whole price gouging argument might be true, but what exactly is price gouging? Does a business not have every right to charge whatever they want?

Every big player on the oil scene is traded publicly on the stock market. Every citizen in this country controls their fate for being boom or bust. As Fimco said, our own government hides behind huge tax percentages on gas (cigarettes as well) with very little transparency, all the while blaming instability in the middle east as the biggest culprit.

If big oil is guilty then so are pharmaceutical companies (profit margins that can be as high as 3000% over cost), the whole healthcare industry, Lawyers, etc.
 
#5 ·
Im not defending big oil companies, but I have never really understood the "finger pointing" that goes on with these guys. They are generally mega corporations who are in business to make a profit. Not sure how they really shoulder the blame, every business I have EVER heard of will increase their pricing model as long as the demand is there to pay for it. The whole price gouging argument might be true, but what exactly is price gouging? Does a business not have every right to charge whatever they want?

Every big player on the oil scene is traded publicly on the stock market. Every citizen in this country controls their fate for being boom or bust. As Fimco said, our own government hides behind huge tax percentages on gas (cigarettes as well) with very little transparency, all the while blaming instability in the middle east as the biggest culprit.

If big oil is guilty then so are pharmaceutical companies (profit margins that can be as high as 3000% over cost), the whole healthcare industry, Lawyers, etc.
Guilty guilty guilty!!

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#6 ·
Big oil in the US is in a more difficult position. Look around the world and most countries nationalize their oil production to use as govt revenue and to control their citizens further. Leftist Pols are dieing to figure out a way to take over oil. If the VOLT from Government Motors fails as we all know it will watch the blame being placed on big oil.
 
#15 ·
Poor Du.

Lot of funds are drying up.

How does one explain a 20 cent per gallon hike overnight at the pumps without re-stocking, and when crude goes down?

We're all getting screwed (except the investors) and all we hear is mumbo jumbo.
Interesting read on this topic.
http://gas2.org/2011/05/05/gas-pric...lt/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+IM-gas2+(Gas+2.0)

Lewis used GasBuddy.com to further test his theory in 2008. Consumers can use GasBuddy.com to search for the lowest gas price in their area. Lewis observed that as gas prices raised traffic to the website increased. As gas prices dropped later on in 2008 so did the traffic to GasBuddy.com showing that consumers stopped shopping around for the best deal on gas. With consumers not shopping around for cheap gas, gas stations can level off their prices and gradually decrease the price of gas rather than having to have their gas prices plummet in order to keep up with competition from other stations.

Source: Gas 2.0 (http://s.tt/12zx0)
 
#16 ·
Pretty weak to whine about what gas prices have to do with irrigation but no whining on music or bbq threads.

Every business that uses vehicles as I suspect most in this business do buys gas.
don't forget that everything we use in this industry in derived from petroleum. Nevermind the fuel used to get get everything to us
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#19 ·
I like those corporate America dividend checks for sure. I can depend on corporate America to provide for my retirement security. But hey if you don't like buying from corporate America sell all your stuff and go live in a tent.

Failed subsidized alternative energy vs a profitable oil company.I'll invest in the oil company thank you very much.
 
#20 ·
After what happened in Alaska, Exxon is on my life time BAN LIST!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Mobil

Exxon Valdez oil spill:

"Exxon was widely criticized for its slow response to cleaning up the disaster. John Devens, the Mayor of Valdez, has said his community felt betrayed by Exxon's inadequate response to the crisis."

"In 2009, Exxon still uses more single-hull tankers than the rest of the largest ten oil companies combined, including the Valdez's sister ship, the SeaRiver Long Beach."

Exxon's Brooklyn oil spill:

"New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo announced on July 17, 2007 that he had filed suit against the Exxon Mobil Corporation and ExxonMobil Refining and Supply Company to force cleanup of the oil spill at Greenpoint, Brooklyn, and to restore Newtown Creek."

"the spill consists of approximately 17 to 30 million gallons of petroleum products from the mid-19th century to the mid-20th century."

Sakhalin-I in the Russian Far East:

"Scientists and environmental groups voice concern that the Sakhalin-I oil and gas project in the Russian Far East, operated by an ExxonMobil subsidiary, Exxon Neftegas Limited (ENL),[42][43] threatens the critically endangered western gray whale population."

Funding of global warming skeptics:

"ExxonMobil has been accused of paying to fuel skepticism of anthropogenic global warming."

HERE IS THE WORST:

Human rights:

" The suit alleges that the ExxonMobil knowingly assisted human rights violations, including TORTURE, MURDER and RAPE, by employing and providing material support to Indonesian military forces, who committed the alleged offenses during civil unrest in Aceh."
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Is that enough to distrust ExxonMobil, if not let me know...I have plenty of more spit to spew!