I'd love to hear the same for warm season grasses.

 

there is actually a shortage of milorganite right now because the demand is so high for it. many people are using it. probably from watching the lawn care nut and others on youtube. i use it on my own yard and it works great. it's great because it's organic and it won't burn the lawn so you really can't mess anything up.

 

One of the important problems is the low nitrogen analysis. This means you have to use more--double or triple the amount you would need--as compared to a typical turf fertilizer.

 

i never put it down at the rate they say to do it. if you do that one bag doesn't go far at all. i probably put it down at half the rate they say to use and it still works great.

 

I'm just a homeowner, but I use this stuff on my lawn. I try to follow the application schedule on the Milorganite site. This year it was very noticeable that my lawn was a much deeper shade of green leading up to the first mow in comparison to my neighbors' lawns. I have a 50 lb. Lesco spreader and open it wide open when I'm spreading Milorganite. I think you could spread this stuff as heavy as you wanted and not have to worry about turf damage, or least not worry about burning the turf.

True Value used to a run a sale on this stuff every spring, but they didn't do it this year. Perhaps there is a shortage. At $10+ per bag, it can become kind of expensive.

 

Most of your landscape supply stores carry an off brand of the stuff. I was told Milorganite is from Milwaukee, so cheese poop derived! Site One, here sells Houactinite made from solid waste in Houston, so Mexican food and BBQ derived. I'm laughing right now. I think many larger municipalities across the regions are being sourced to make this stuff.

 

True though, it is cheaper per bag, but you do probably need to use 2-3 times the amount of synthetic to get close to the N rate. I like to use it on my Fescue lawns on round 4 here. I don't even really worry about the N rate in July on Fescue. It seems to keep the color dark green and keeps it from getting burned up. I think more than anything, over time, it just enhances your topsoil.

 

well how about ringer restore 10-0-6 organic as well.

 

that's better stuff but it's even more expensive than milorganite. milorganite is about $13 a bag and ringer is like $35-$40 a bag.

 

Lots of threads about milorganite on thelawnforum.

 

Go with screaming green 16-2-3 at half the rate, you can get 16,000 square feet out of a bag.
Has bio solids also.

 

What about some compost too?

At the prices some are posting for Milo you could afford 2 bags of quality compostpayup

 

Dynamic Duo 4-3-1 contains only composted poultry manure and biosolids.
Recommended rate 4.4lbs/k. High rate 5.7lbs/k for cool and warm season turf. Available at SiteOne.
When you are adding biologically active organic matter you don't need to apply a lot of N.

 

I will have to take a liok at that stuff, is it in a fine grade?

True, I have done tests and soils that were only treated with synthetic fertilizers needed a lot of synthetic nitrogen to green them up.
When adding a fertilizer that contains composted pultry litter with microbes you can use less synthetic fertilizers. Soil becomes alive from basicly dead.
Milo contains no microbes unfortunately.

A friend of mine has his own croquet course and he is never put any natural fertilizers down only synthetic. 3 or so weeks ago I got him to apply the sustain 4-6-4 and Milo on same day, went with about 1/3 lb N per 1,000 between the 2. He's amazed at how green and thick his croquette courses now, it's never looked this good.

 

What's the cost of that dynamic Duo ? I just got a response form my supplier for Earthworks Replenish 3-4-3 poultry compost for $16.50 per bag. He said I could cover 8,000-10,000 s/f per bag at a cost of $16.50. that seams thin and expensive per s/f to me. any thoughts?

 

manure and compost are great - but I need something that can be disbursed with a fertilizer spreader...... several stops per day.

 

rabbit food alfalfa pellets. i've heard that works good too.

 

rabbit food and tea? my customers might not like the raccoon and opossum traffic they would get.
** Just got a price for Screamin' green from site one - $24.84 per bag (and that's the per pallet price) Is it that high for everyone else?

 

yup. apparently they don't want to sell it.

 

these sales guys are so full of $hit. I talked to an old supplier (Site One)about Screamin green - said it was the best stuff around - great results, all kinds of good effects on the soil. **** Here is what my current supplier (who coincidentally doesn't sell it) wrote " I use to use screaming green years ago when I worked for a company that did what you did. The screamin' green is extremely high in salts and metals. I did a soil test on the owner of the company I worked for as he Bermuda would not grow in full sun and irrigation. When I got the results the metals where over 2000 ppm and the salts where off the chat. He used those products for several years which lead to the issues he was having. Not a fan at all. Took me almost 2 years to completely flush his yard of that stuff and get it back to where it needed to be. Yes it's cheap but there is a reason for it. Sorry if I ranted but have bad long term effect of that line of products. "
You be the judge - somebody is lying - probably both.

 

Compost has worked since the beginning of agriculture :weightlifter:

In some countries they use there own waste in the rice fields

Sounds like theyre slinging it instead of fertilizing with it because they don't have a patentpayuppayuppayup

 

these sales guys are so full of $hit. I talked to an old supplier (Site One)about Screamin green - said it was the best stuff around - great results, all kinds of good effects on the soil. **** Here is what my current supplier (who coincidentally doesn't sell it) wrote " I use to use screaming green years ago when I worked for a company that did what you did. The screamin' green is extremely high in salts and metals. I did a soil test on the owner of the company I worked for as he Bermuda would not grow in full sun and irrigation. When I got the results the metals where over 2000 ppm and the salts where off the chat. He used those products for several years which lead to the issues he was having. Not a fan at all. Took me almost 2 years to completely flush his yard of that stuff and get it back to where it needed to be. Yes it's cheap but there is a reason for it. Sorry if I ranted but have bad long term effect of that line of products. "
You be the judge - somebody is lying - probably both.

Umm, dare I say it? Bull Crap.

 

Bull Crap

That adds too much phosphorous to the conversation. It will have a residual effect.

 

 

No human sh!t going on my lawn.

 

Just dog shat