Alright alright all you electro guys. Best battery op straight shaft. The "Why" would be good. Only to use for trimming and edging. We typically run .105 line. My gas redmax trimmers can easily cut through aluminum cans like they aren't even there. Anything comparable? Average day is 20 to 30 lawns. Just want to try one. We will see. Thx
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Does this rule apply to a contractor building a fence, deck, remodeling the kitchen? No charging tools? Maybe we only have hack contractors in my area but they all have something plugged in.
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No, this rule does not apply to those people.
I mean if your customers are fine with it then I shouldn't say never do it, but looking at it from a professional standpoint, it would appear as though your equipment is not adequate for the job.
I mean if your customers are fine with it then I shouldn't say never do it, but looking at it from a professional standpoint, it would appear as though your equipment is not adequate for the job.
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But a contractors battery equipment is adequate even though they probably need to have something plugged in? The logic alludes me.
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Some contractors have gas air compressors, most plug in.
No contractors have gasoline screw or nail guns or drivers or drills, etc. therefore they plug in. They are also usually on site for more much longer periods of time doing a much different line of work.
Some contractors have generators.
Plug in if you need the power, but to me I would say at that point your equipment is holding you back.
No contractors have gasoline screw or nail guns or drivers or drills, etc. therefore they plug in. They are also usually on site for more much longer periods of time doing a much different line of work.
Some contractors have generators.
Plug in if you need the power, but to me I would say at that point your equipment is holding you back.
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No argument, just discussion. If I’m going to be on site doing a leaf job big enough to require plugging in I’m going to be on site at least an hour and probably longer. People comment now and then that it’s nice not hearing a gas backpack for an hour or two.
I’m very likely to get a monster backpack blower this year but if I continue further into the ego line the 765cfm handheld blowers are going to be pushing masses of leaves fairly easily. For the price of a major backpack blower I’d be able to buy a 200ah 12v lithium battery and be able to recharge almost 50ah of batteries. I’m also going to still have the Ryobi blowers and 24ah of batteries so I could in theory have almost two hours of straight leaf blowing potential.
I’m very likely to get a monster backpack blower this year but if I continue further into the ego line the 765cfm handheld blowers are going to be pushing masses of leaves fairly easily. For the price of a major backpack blower I’d be able to buy a 200ah 12v lithium battery and be able to recharge almost 50ah of batteries. I’m also going to still have the Ryobi blowers and 24ah of batteries so I could in theory have almost two hours of straight leaf blowing potential.
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Keep it up buddy. I'm about to send you one of my backpacks so you can run it during leaf season and get over it. What takes you more than an hour with your batteries will take a half hour with the real blower.
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What cfm and mph you working with
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The other thing is I would only use a 80cc blower for two months while I would make use of a big lithium over 10 months.
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If you ever got the chance to just try an echo 8010 or the new 9010 your mind would be blown. Along with the leaves but much quicker than your mind. I keep my fleet of echo 8010s reserved for leaf season only. We run Redmax 8500s in mow time.
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Neutons are the only real way to compare blowers IMO. I see you get 750cfm for a whopping 15 min with the ego. We get over 1000 for about an hour on a single small tank of gas. Not to mention the 213mph if memory serves me right in our 8010s.
I thought my Stihl BR800x was going to be overkill for lawn mowing & blowing.
(It's 900ish cfm at 230? something MPH?) 41 Newtons blowing force.
I was wrong. Dead wrong. It is perfect for all but the smallest of tasks. Starts on 1 pull. Hot, warm or cold. It does surprisingly well on fuel. And it weighs a whopping 2 pounds more than the very common BR600 or Redmax 7500whatever blowers...
@Hurryupelectric Just get the big backpack blower now, and save the batteries for your string trimmers & hedge trimmers. Keep (1) handheld cordless blower for cleaning gutters and a backup. You'll thank us all in short order. Promise...
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How many here have used two strong handheld blowers?
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See you're hung up on those numbers again, it's a marketing trick.
The numbers you hold as gospel such as cfm and mph have some wierd little quirks. For example is it the air flow in the housing or in the pipe? Is the MPH based on the smallest nozzle?
In the housing it's way more than it is in the pipe, but guess where it matters...you guessed it, in the pipe.
time to put those numbers away and try a real blower and then let us know what the numbers mean to you.
For the record i think my blower is rated at 232 mph air speed and 890 cfm....
here's a video, go to the 4:20 mark and start watching, i hope this helps you come to the realization.
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That guy definitely always plugs Ego stuff lol.
So here’s the thing man. I’m fully aware that those Ryobi blowers are not both 730cfm and 190mph, I figured that out last fall. I run them without the silly tips and as I’ve said, I’ve moved plenty of leaves last fall. Let’s go with my not using the tips. Let’s say conservatively 600cfm and 160mph each, that’s 1,200cfm and 160mph combined. I have the option of concentrating both blowers in one spot to break up tough material or oscillating them for a 4’ wide air plow on stuff that’s not cemented down.
I’m also not moving an acres worth of leaves to the surrounding woods or up to the street for collection. 90% of what I do, leaf wise, is clearing out debris from beds and nooks and crannies. I bag everything with my Honda or Turfmaster, and I’m deciding what I’m going to use this year to bag so I can finally burn my Turfmaster and never look back lol.
I think one of the major things with my being able to use two electric handheld blowers is the type of property I accept. Mostly open 1/8-1/3 acre properties without many obstacles or places for leaves to get stuck up in. I believe I’ve mentioned that I’m likely to continue investing in the ego platform, I really wish I went to lowes instead of home depot three years ago when I bought my first Ryobi 40v string trimmer. I would have chosen Ego and everything would be better.
I believe the biggest Ego blowers are realistically over 700cfm and without any tips they are up around 170-180mph. They apparently also last about 12-14 minutes on boost. I understand to not get wrapped up in the advertised numbers but speaking from experience the ryobi’s are doing good work and I expect the ego stuff to be superior in all ways.
I have a friendly offer to take a top tier gas backpack and buy it if I feel it’s a good move for my company after using. I’m seriously considering taking up the offer but I’m absolutely not going to be using a huge gas backpack just to clear off walkways and driveways. It’s wayyy too convenient to grab my handhelds and finish up. I’ve used mid tier backpacks and didn’t in any way see the use of firing up something and getting it situated on my back when by that time I’ve already cleared the 50’ stretch of sidewalk and moving towards the driveway with my electric blowers.
I’m absolutely thinking hard about this topic. Just because I’m not doing my usual 6,000 questions like I’ve become known for, doesn’t mean that I’m not going to be getting one for fall. At the end of the day, in all honesty, I really don’t want to wear a backpack blower unless it’s going to make a huge difference in what I normally tackle. Some of these electric handheld blowers are pretty strong man.
So here’s the thing man. I’m fully aware that those Ryobi blowers are not both 730cfm and 190mph, I figured that out last fall. I run them without the silly tips and as I’ve said, I’ve moved plenty of leaves last fall. Let’s go with my not using the tips. Let’s say conservatively 600cfm and 160mph each, that’s 1,200cfm and 160mph combined. I have the option of concentrating both blowers in one spot to break up tough material or oscillating them for a 4’ wide air plow on stuff that’s not cemented down.
I’m also not moving an acres worth of leaves to the surrounding woods or up to the street for collection. 90% of what I do, leaf wise, is clearing out debris from beds and nooks and crannies. I bag everything with my Honda or Turfmaster, and I’m deciding what I’m going to use this year to bag so I can finally burn my Turfmaster and never look back lol.
I think one of the major things with my being able to use two electric handheld blowers is the type of property I accept. Mostly open 1/8-1/3 acre properties without many obstacles or places for leaves to get stuck up in. I believe I’ve mentioned that I’m likely to continue investing in the ego platform, I really wish I went to lowes instead of home depot three years ago when I bought my first Ryobi 40v string trimmer. I would have chosen Ego and everything would be better.
I believe the biggest Ego blowers are realistically over 700cfm and without any tips they are up around 170-180mph. They apparently also last about 12-14 minutes on boost. I understand to not get wrapped up in the advertised numbers but speaking from experience the ryobi’s are doing good work and I expect the ego stuff to be superior in all ways.
I have a friendly offer to take a top tier gas backpack and buy it if I feel it’s a good move for my company after using. I’m seriously considering taking up the offer but I’m absolutely not going to be using a huge gas backpack just to clear off walkways and driveways. It’s wayyy too convenient to grab my handhelds and finish up. I’ve used mid tier backpacks and didn’t in any way see the use of firing up something and getting it situated on my back when by that time I’ve already cleared the 50’ stretch of sidewalk and moving towards the driveway with my electric blowers.
I’m absolutely thinking hard about this topic. Just because I’m not doing my usual 6,000 questions like I’ve become known for, doesn’t mean that I’m not going to be getting one for fall. At the end of the day, in all honesty, I really don’t want to wear a backpack blower unless it’s going to make a huge difference in what I normally tackle. Some of these electric handheld blowers are pretty strong man.
We absolutely hated the Echo 9010's. Just gangly things. Utterly horrible triggers and throttle and way to long/high up from the tube barrel. Super awkward activating the thumb idle/cruise control lever. Mega resistence from the tube and elbow all the time too. Always were fighting the thing.
Never seen a backpack blower suck so much debris into the fins/fan module behind our backs. Not really that comfortable on the back as many state here, in our opinion. The front chest straps leave alot to be desired.
We tried the Stih BR800's too. We thought those to be more comfortable. Really like the adjustable length bottom section of the tubes. But I've also seen and heard tons of complaints over time about the mechanisms.
Don't get me wrong. Both the Echo and Stihl big boys have a lot of power and airflow.
In the end, the Husqvarna 580BTS and the new 580BTS MarkII's just fit the overall bill a lot better in our opinion.
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Yes I double fisted Husqvarna 125b handhelds sometimes in my first season. If you side discharge in our northern grasses, whether or not you have an OCDC(operator controlled discharge chute) you're going to have grass on hard surfaces. It is pretty easy to flip the lever, pull the starter and sling the 580bts's over one shoulder or two,2,to,too,tu shoulders and hit the accounts when blowing off. It isn't as rough on you as you may think. It does save time with the speed and power of the backpack. We edge all hard surfaces every week here as well. The handhelds whether gas or battery just are too slow to efficiently blow off everything and all the edges cleanly in a timely manor.
For what it's worth, as you grow you will want and need a backpack blower. It is just a matter of when you get around to purchasing one. And no you most definitely will not be going with a battery backpack blower in the near future. Until the batteries can have at least 4 times the power output per watt/hour and longevity per charge, there is no way a manufacturer can engineer a backpack blower to do what the gas can do today.
Never seen a backpack blower suck so much debris into the fins/fan module behind our backs. Not really that comfortable on the back as many state here, in our opinion. The front chest straps leave alot to be desired.
We tried the Stih BR800's too. We thought those to be more comfortable. Really like the adjustable length bottom section of the tubes. But I've also seen and heard tons of complaints over time about the mechanisms.
Don't get me wrong. Both the Echo and Stihl big boys have a lot of power and airflow.
In the end, the Husqvarna 580BTS and the new 580BTS MarkII's just fit the overall bill a lot better in our opinion.
@Hurryupelectric
Yes I double fisted Husqvarna 125b handhelds sometimes in my first season. If you side discharge in our northern grasses, whether or not you have an OCDC(operator controlled discharge chute) you're going to have grass on hard surfaces. It is pretty easy to flip the lever, pull the starter and sling the 580bts's over one shoulder or two,2,to,too,tu shoulders and hit the accounts when blowing off. It isn't as rough on you as you may think. It does save time with the speed and power of the backpack. We edge all hard surfaces every week here as well. The handhelds whether gas or battery just are too slow to efficiently blow off everything and all the edges cleanly in a timely manor.
For what it's worth, as you grow you will want and need a backpack blower. It is just a matter of when you get around to purchasing one. And no you most definitely will not be going with a battery backpack blower in the near future. Until the batteries can have at least 4 times the power output per watt/hour and longevity per charge, there is no way a manufacturer can engineer a backpack blower to do what the gas can do today.
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I almost never use my backpack blower during the summer - only on large jobs, or where I've needed to side discharge, and I need to go and disperse any clumps.
I don't care HOW "easy" it is to sling a backpack over one shoulder, there is NO comparison to picking up a lightweight, handheld, cordless blower and INSTANTLY be blowing stuff off a sidewalk with the press of a button.
You don't even have to shut it down - just put it back. Done.
Backpacks have their place. Not all of us need them.
There's nothing wrong with using them when it makes sense, but lots of people here tend to only see things from their own "world view" of what THEY do and they assume that everyone else must do things that way too.
Also, as a user of cordless stuff for quite a few years now, I will say that I can't imagine any cordless backpack being up to the task of what a gas unit can do.
Sort of like mowers - I'd love to get a maintenance-free 21" mower, but there's just no way I can do what I need to do with a cordless unit. Yet.
I don't care HOW "easy" it is to sling a backpack over one shoulder, there is NO comparison to picking up a lightweight, handheld, cordless blower and INSTANTLY be blowing stuff off a sidewalk with the press of a button.
You don't even have to shut it down - just put it back. Done.
Backpacks have their place. Not all of us need them.
There's nothing wrong with using them when it makes sense, but lots of people here tend to only see things from their own "world view" of what THEY do and they assume that everyone else must do things that way too.
Also, as a user of cordless stuff for quite a few years now, I will say that I can't imagine any cordless backpack being up to the task of what a gas unit can do.
Sort of like mowers - I'd love to get a maintenance-free 21" mower, but there's just no way I can do what I need to do with a cordless unit. Yet.
FWIW, I really like my 800X blower. The "X" model does away with the adjustable length tube. You get the long (standard) tube, and a short tube which is really nice in the dryer months. Even less weight, even easier to swing, and you can use your left hand to cover the pipe, and throttle the airflow even more if you need to be super delicate.
This. 100%.
How long will you put it off, and how much will you spend in the interim on other stuff, to avoid buying the better tool...
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I love the quick handheld blowers. I use one at maybe 40% of my properties. The rest get the backpack, because they need the backpack and so do I.
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