Lawn Care Forum banner

DBA?.....LLC?.......or INC.?

13K views 14 replies 7 participants last post by  echeandia  
#1 ·
My brother and I are starting a small landscape maintenance business. We dont know what to register as. If you could help us that would be great. Thanks
 
#4 ·
Insurance is seperate from the LLC or Inc. The insurance you get is whatever you feel it should be, id say no less than 500K.

I do not know about the DBA & LLC stuff, but im pretty sure that it registers you with your state as a business and you get a tax i.d # . but it is still connected to you and your assets. Getting an LLC, seperates what is considered the business's assets.
 
#7 ·
Thanks I checked that site out and im starting to get it. But im confused on the DBA is that just getting my name? LLC and Inc. is to seperate things that deal with how much insuranc you get and need? Or am I just totaly off?
You are obviously in need of basic business information. Go the the SBA site (http://www.sba.gov/smallbusinessplanner/index.html) and read up on what it takes to start and run a business. The information will seem overwhelming at first but don't let that deter you. Running a business will also seem overwhelming at times. If you can get though the reading you will be well on your way. Good Luck!
 
#8 ·
You have three options - Sole Propriatorship or in other words (DBA or "Doing Business As" which refers to obtaining the right to operate your business under a Fictitious Name like "Joe Shmoe's Lawncare"), you can take a step up from that and go LLC or Limited Liability Company (which you may consider based upon personal assets like homeownership, company's assets, partnerships, and tax preferrences, and so fourth) or you can go Inc which there are several forms. I talked to a few friends about what would be best in my situation - one has an Inc but started his business as an LLC and the other has 2 Inc and 1 LLC. It's good to find a mentor for questions like that because there are so many things to consider for anyone on this site to answer your question accurately. By the way, all the info I found on the IRS site and the web was somewhat confusing and so that is why I sought advice from other professionals. Good Luck
 
#9 ·
A sole proprietorship and DBA are not one in the same. You can create a fictitious name for any type of business entity. It is just a matter of filing the proper form with the clerk of the court for your city or county. The reason for this is so people can track you down in the event they want to file a claim (i.e. law suit).

As I said earlier read up at the SBA web site. Only use the IRS web site if you are interested in finding out how to handle tax issues for your company.
 
#10 ·
I am a sole proprietor and I am "doing business as' under my own name. I keep all of my business transactions in a separate personal checking account nicknamed "Landscaping Account" which comes with a debit card & checks.

In NJ, I didn't have to sign any special forms to do this.
You would have to if you were to add "landscaping" to the name you are doing business under.

On the side of my truck it looks like this:

My Full Name
~Landscaper~
(000)000-0000

When people write their checks, they put it payable to "my name"...they do not put the word "Landscaper" on the payable line at all.
Hoep this helps.:dancing:
 
#11 ·
I am a sole proprietor ... under my own name.

...

I didn't have to sign any special forms to do this.
Here is an example of what I was talking about. DBA means Doing Business As which is the use of a fictitious name for an organization. Thes is using his own name and is not DBA anything. However, his company is organized as a Sole Proprietorship. DBA and Sole Proprietorship are not the same thing.
 
#12 ·
Thes is using his own name and is not DBA anything. However, his company is organized as a Sole Proprietorship. DBA and Sole Proprietorship are not the same thing.
Yeah...the whole "doing business as" thing didn't come into play for me at all...sorry that I used that phrase in my post. :hammerhead:
These things are hard to make sense of sometimes. :dizzy:
Thanks for clearing that up, echeandia. :waving: :clapping:
 
#13 ·
Before you make up your mind,,,talk to a CPA,,,there are some major
differances between a LLC and an S corp. If you put your CPA in the same roon as your attorney, you will come out incorporated. The liability aspect is almost the same but the taxation is differant. You will keep more is you are a corporation or sole-prop with more Insurance.
Just .02
Alan
 
#14 ·
Just got off the phone with my CPA
LLC are subject to 15.3 FICA + income tax.
S Corp can distribute income better and are not subjest to FICA on distributions.
You can also work a retirement plan better based on W2 income.
1/4 of this guys clients are Lanscapers.
Just another .02
Alan
 
#15 ·
Just got off the phone with my CPA
LLC are subject to 15.3 FICA + income tax.
S Corp can distribute income better and are not subjest to FICA on distributions.
You can also work a retirement plan better based on W2 income.
An S Corp and LLC are very similar with regard to the handling of income by the owners. In both cases income is passed through to the owners. S Corp's and LLC's do not file income taxes directly. LLC's are easier to maintain with regard to paperwork and meeting and have largely replaced S Corp's as a result.