The Echo 2600 I got used the 5ah battery. Maybe a different model?

 

Same batteries, i've got both trimmers. I prefer to use the 2ah batteries to keep the weight down.

TT is right, I can't tell any difference in power between the T3000 and the dsrm2600. Pretty much the only reason i got the echo is because the batteries from the shin are interchangable.

They're seeing more work now that we've had less than 1" of rain the past 7 weeks.

 

The 5ah and 2ah are interchangeable. ^^^^ 2ah keeps weight down. Neither has decent torque with line out

the 82v Greenworks Commercial unit sounds like it would be significantly more powerful but it’s by order only at my dealer. You take your chances.

 

Wow, something doesn't work as expected when it's used as it wasn't intended to be. Big surprise there...

 

It doesn’t work like a 25cc gas, which they claim, even with guard. Technically, if it Actually had power of a 25cc gas it should handle long string at WOT.

Works fine for light duty weekly accounts/no guard/.080 line

 

It's the same way with my electric chainsaw, it's good for about six limbs and I'm talking limbs too thick for the loppers but where it's not worth firing up the 021 Stihl so 2-3 maybe 4 inches in diameter (better stick to under 4" if I want to get through six thou). Then I have to swap battery, we're also talking 2-2.5ah... And it's all I bought it for so I'm good with it but I wanted to share that for full time sawing I would never consider anything but gasoline power.

Now I have heard stories of the 5ah chainsaws being much better but I'm not exactly overwhelmed by the performance of the 2.5's so I don't see how the 5ah's is going to be worth the expense but so much...

 

Battery amp hours would mostly yield longer runtime, maybe a minor power difference. What saw are you running?

 

Guy on the electric operator FB page says GW82v is putting 2kw motors in the newest models. Dude seems to be up on specs accurately. I bought the new Greenworks 80v powerhead and they’ve fixed the slow spool up speeds. It’s a pretty good bet for the GW commercial string trimmer. I’ve read that the new commercial units won’t stop even if buried in overgrown muck.

 

Good to know. I can only order the 1.5kw so will wait for the new 2kw.

With a 2kw motor in the head and 80v this unit should toast the Echo in heavy growth

 

Do you happen to know the kw of the Echo?

 

No but using the rationale that at 1.5KW, GreenWorks claims equivalency to 35cc (likely 25cc) vs Echo which claims 25cc (more like 20 at best), then 2kw should be the benchmark.

Not fully understanding how power is measured with these units yet, I am guessing a combination of higher voltage,80v, plus the presumably higher KW rating will offer significant power advantages.

The fact that the motor is in the head and not spinning the shaft like Echo's must help as well. Going to order the 2kw GW for spring 2023 and will post back results

 

No but using the rationale that at 1.5KW, GreenWorks claims equivalency to 35cc (likely 25cc) vs Echo which claims 25cc (more like 20 at best), then 2kw should be the benchmark.

Not fully understanding how power is measured with these units yet, I am guessing a combination of higher voltage,80v, plus the presumably higher KW rating will offer significant power advantages.

The fact that the motor is in the head and not spinning the shaft like Echo's, must help as well. Going to order the 2kw GW for spring 2023 and will post back results

How much does the GreenWorks weigh?

 

I’ll amend the previous statement. I’ve not always found a bigger voltage number on the tool to mean much of anything.

 

I think it has to correlate with the motor size to be meaningful, meaning the motor has to be able to actually use the power offered.

Do you have the 80V homeowner or 82V Commercial? Guessing the homeowner units motors are smaller

 

The circuit board may also be a possible weak link. Wiring gauge also needs to be of ample capacity. All these things add up when the bean counters get a hold of the designs.

 

I have the 80v homeowner unit. I use powerhead and attachments because I prefer my trimmer, edger and hedger to live inside my suv. Greenworks commercial didn’t make a new version attachment capable powerhead and I couldn’t live with the slow speed up. Greenworks also has build houses produce every besides the commercial 82v. Greenworks designs and makes that line. When I grow up and become a big boy I’m very likely going into Makita 40v. Lots of these battery units have low tech motor controls. I feel it’s important for refined performance to get a unit with Hall Effect Sensors. Ego, Greenworks 80v both use a much simpler non sensored motor and I dislike the clunky response.

 

weird, my ego blower and Shin/Echo batt units have smooth and instantaneously responsive throttles. And can hit WOT in a blink

 

I’ve been inside all my powerheads because I mod them for dual direction because I trim the “wrong” way. There’s a clear distinction between the way the sensored and non sensored motors behave. I’ve been all over the Google learning about brushless dc motors and the various sensoring systems. My biggest peve is the ability to spin very slowly. I look at the motor control in the parts diagrams before I get serious about a powerhead now. Greenworks residential stuff doesn’t sell any parts besides the most basic trimming head and such, I rolled the dice and lost with GW.

Here’s my Ryobi powerheads guts, figuring out the proper sensor and phase wire combinations was very involved. Took hours to really understand it. Dual direction involved a 12 pin switch

The ego and GW80v were far less complex, possibly radio control car parts? Only three wires to the motor on the Ego, very rudimentary design.

I know you didn’t ask all this but I’m just demonstrating that not all brands put real engineering into these things.

 

Been looking for info on the 2600 56V unit by Echo. Can it serve as a weekly mow trimmer for residential stuff? How many properties can you churn out with the 5 Ah battery? I dont even mess with the 2Ah one, dies way too quick.

I dont do Greenworks. Chinese made crap.

 

Not sure why you'd run a battery trimmer with no guard and long line. Yes, duh, you'll kill the juice in it fast.

 

Cuz it has 25cc equivalent power dont cha kno

 

I do run them with no guard with 080 line they do fine in lighter growth.

To cut the the chase. Would you suggest the 2kw 82v commercial GW will be significantly more powerful than the DRSM2600 ( which is about the same as Egos trimmers for reference)

 

From what I’ve read it’s a moderately safe bet. I’m just not going to speak as though I’ve had hands on experience with it. But the Echo was supposed to be some kind of a big deal and here we are…

 

1kw but seems like it’s got the balls

 

Cut to the chase, he can’t make the 40v stall

 

Ol zac here is a guru on electric outdoor power equipment. Here’s from a discussion a few weeks back.

 

I only see the 1.5kw. And my dealer is saying he can’t order a 2kw from his list

82ST15-4DP 82V GEN II 1.5kW FRONT-MOUNT STRING STRIMMER WITH 4AH BATTERY AND DUAL PORT CHARGER

Cutting edge brushless technology allows users to trim with up to 40% more power than a 31cc gas trimmer! Save $202 buying this Kitted Tool vs. buying the tool, battery and charger separately! Cut Path: 16” Motor: Direct drive commercial grade brushless motor produces up to 1.5kW of Power...

www.greenworkscommercial.com

nevermind. I see it now. Dealer don’t have it on his order list though. They go from 31cc to 36cc in power apparently

82ST20 82V GEN II 2.0kW FRONT-MOUNT STRING STRIMMER (TOOL ONLY)

Cutting edge brushless technology allows users to trim with up to 43% more power than a 36cc Gas trimmer! Cut Path: 16” Motor: Direct Drive commercial grade brushless motor produces up to 2.0kW of power Spool Type: 0.095” Dual Bump Feed with Load N’ Go Max™ Easy Feed Head Trigger: Responsive...

www.greenworkscommercial.com

 

If anyone is going to go through a lot of trouble to run electric it’s me, but, why not a gasser? Probably lighter, reliable ways to gauge power and cheaper. If you don’t mind me asking, what’s got your interest in running battery in those tough conditions with a lot of line out? Gonna fly through batteries.

 

Very shifty of Echo to basically rebadge the old Shin T3000 with no noticeable power improvement as a DSRM 2600 and call it their “new“ battery trimmer. T3000 is almost 4yrs old.

 

Proof?

 

Uses exact same batts. Has same power.

proof enough

 

Echo just went through dropping the 58v series and moved into the 56v. I’d have a hard time investing into a battery platform with them even if their string trimmers knocked bricks out of foundations. My friend just showed me how the attachments keep breaking on his gasser. Now to hear their new and “improved” performance line may be rather pedestrian and rebadged is disheartening. I’ve just recently looked at shindaiwa electric and I couldn’t help but notice how similar it is with echo. I can’t tell for sure but it looks like stihl took a decent crack at it’s battery platform. Their pride shows in it’s pricing though.

 

Yea but the 56v Echo platform is not new like they are trying to make us believe. The Shin T3000 and other Shin batt tools, all now discontinued, have been using it for 4 years.