Don't do it. The technology is still insufficient. At least wait for solid state batteries to come out.

If you must, consider the Deere Z370R for the warranty and after-sales support.

 

Don't do it. The technology is still insufficient. At least wait for solid state batteries to come out.

If you must, consider the Deere Z370R for the warranty and after-sales support.
I agree, the technology still needs a few years

I agree, the technology still needs a few years

 

Mean green has been making them a few years now. Between them and Ryobi, I'd probably go with mean green. No personal experience with either.

 

What does the Ryobi use for a battery pack? I was looking ot one at Home Depot and it was sans battery. It looked like it would hold a bigger battery than the 40 volt.

 

it's 80volt lithium

I don't really have an option of waiting a few years. I need a mower in the next few weeks as I currently have nothing. Hopefully it'll hold some resale value when tech way improves.

 

A residential electric mower will not hold resale value because the electric technology is evolving too fast. It will be obsolete tech-wise in 12 months.
Your best bet is the Deere, because corporate will assist local dealers on trade-in so that you can upgrade.
With Ryobi and Mean Green, you have nothing.
3 to 4 acres is pushing the current electric mower tech capabilty. You need a decent machine for 3-4 acres as residential will wear out too quickly with that amount of use.

 

the John Deere one is a bit smaller than I'd like. I have 3-4 acres and want to zip through as fast as I can. ryobi is 54" and mean green is 54" or 60"

 

Maybe go the MG then. I think MG claims the 54 will cut 6.2 ares per charge. So with the new math and science applied it might cut your 4 acres on a charge. I don't think MG is moving to many units and probably lose a lot of value used.

 

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I base my equipment buying decisions on many factors, most importantly is serviceability and dealer support. I dont have a dog in this fight between these brands but my observation of electric equipment so far is lack of serviceability. How long will the proprietary batteries last and be supported? Is it possible to service/ replace motors easily? Are parts readily available? I've looked at the EGO and Ryobi electric riders and they look to me like overpriced, disposable, plastic covered junk. I dont know anything about the Mean Green.

 

so Mean Green makes higher end commercial mowers. This model is their homeowner model.

from what I read they have high levels of customer service. I would be buying that from a reputable and local lawn equipment shop that would also be able to fix things if needed.

yeah buying ryobi or ego I'm at the mercy of calling lowes or home depot or whatever...could be a huge hassle if something went wrong...could be easy. no idea there.

so big check mark to the mean green for serviceability / repair. unknown for the ryobi / ego

 

You’d be a lot better with a gasoline mower for 4 acres.

 

My experience with battery powered vehicles and tools is using the full capacity of the battery everytime kills the battery life.

Also the batteries often cost more than the mower.

I would either buy the MG, and split my mowing into two days or look for a mower with a larger battery.

I also like the idea of battery electric mower, but realistically gas is going to be a cheaper and better option. Not sure of your goal. If you're trying to help the environment, buying lithium batteries and quickly trashing them by using their full capacity every week isn't going to help .

 

I've been looking at commercial battery ztrs for a year. For a homeowner I think battery would be fine. I don't think any are going to cut 4 acres on a charge though. They seem to take the max speed x the deck width as how much it will cut per charge. I'd much rather they gave runtime but that number is apparently a little embarrassing. I've heard one Ryobi uses lead acid batteries. I have been using battery hand helds since 2015 and regardless of brand I get about 1000 cycles (3 years of daily use) out of Lithium batteries. Something with replaceable batteries would work if you had other tools in that system. The mowers use much larger batteries than any other tool.

 

Personally if I was getting a battery mower it would be using LFP cells that are good for several thousand cycles, and aren't prone to catastrophic runaway fires like standard lithium ion chemistry.

 

Looks like you can double the battery warranty to 10 years/400 total hours for $352.

 

So tbh I know financially the gas mower is a much better option.

I want to keep the mower in the garage and we have electric cars so I don't want it smelling...and don't want to buy a shed.

Tbh I just want it also because I'm not mechanically inclined so I'm ok overpaying for something with less maintenance, quieter, no fumes. I'll be more likely to enjoy doing it. Around my area it's about $225-$250 per mow and will be going up. So this will pay for itself at some point (plus my time)

I also think it'll be fun...and I have someone who might borrow it to mow a few neighbors' lawns and either trade mowing my lawn or some $$ to chip into it.

Just I guess my question boils down to the difference between entry level commercial vs pretty nice residential mowers.

 

Yes. Sometimes things aren't only about money. I like electric for same reasons.

 

Send the smell down the road absolutely!

 

I am sold on getting an electric ZTR for my property. I have it narrowed to the Ryobi 54" and the Mean Green Nemesis 60".

The Mean Green is double the price. I always try to buy American if possible but just want to understand what I'm getting.

Can anyone please point out a few of the things that might make the Nemesis more valuable?

(I've tried to read as much as possible but they use different figures for specs and it's a bit confusing to me).

Thank you! really appreciate this forum and all of the help you all provide.

the ryobi is listed at 5.5 grand but the mean green is listed at 16.5.... are you getting special pricing?

 

Don’t forget your fire resistant suit.. 😂

 

thats dewalt quality right there.

 

The Ryobi that's $5,500 was the lead acid one. They sell for $8,000 now in 54" with lithium and the joystick. It's available right away. That's the one I'm comparing.

I saw the Nemesis 60" at $17,000 and they have a $2,500 instant rebate from nemesis until April 30... So ~ $14,500

 

There's a 30% fed tax credit upto $7500 you may be eligible for with the Nemesis given it has a >7kWh battery. Not sure how much battery capacity the Ryobi has. California and some other states have some other quite generous tax credits/rebates as well.

 

"I'm not mechanically inclined"

Just because it is electric doesn't mean you are off the hook. Take a look at the manual of the machine(s) under consideration and determine if you have the tools and skills to attend to the frequent action items. Or at least verify where the nearest service center is. From what I know the traditional mower shops don't like working on box store brand gas OPE and it could be a real hard stop for anything electric from the same. Ryobi is a box store brand.

 

thank you everyone. I'm aware electric is in its infancy and don't disagree. I'm gonna most likely take a shot on it anyway.

Any other input on what quality improvements a commercial like Mean Green would have vs Ryobi (or Ego, etc) would be awesome.

 

Mean Green is an "unproven" commercial mower.
For 3-4 acres, I humbly suggest you purchase a proven gasoline commercial mower.
If you want to go the cheap route, buy an S180 Deere tractor with a 54" deck for a mere $3600. The featured easy change oil/filter is minimal maintenance for you. But like Ryobi, you get what you pay for.

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How about you get the neighbor to buy the mower to service the neighborhood yards and you borrow it when it’s time to cut 😂

 

I've heard that easy change oil filter is very expensive.

 

$50 and a very easy service for him since he's not mechanically inclined.

 

Dupe

 

One thing the OP needs to ask is. If something breaks down on the mower who will fix it? I don't know of many mower shops that will repair electric powered equipment.

 

there are a handful of mean green dealers and service centers within an hour - 90 minutes of me. that's unacceptable for a biz but I'm hoping as a residential owner i'm not in and out of the shop more than once a year.

for ryobi there are "approved service centers" but I would imagine they would change as dealers hopped on board and off board

 

ryobi is below the tax credit

mean green is 7.2 kwh

 

Brucey, I didn't realize we the taxpayer now get to help subsidize overpriced and generally unsuitable electric mowers! That's wonderful news! I see this is part of the 'inflation reduction act.' I suppose the EV mower companies will price their products fairly and competitively and not just mark them up 30%...lol. I think the braintrust in Washington should have named this the "Inflation Creation Act" instead...

 

I have a pair of Harbor Freight electric mowers, as well as HF electric trimmers. They work good for small areas, such as around my mobile home/lake house and around my swimming pool. I would never consider them for my home lot, 1.5 acres. I've already had to replace one battery after just 8 months.

Likewise, I don't think the available electric ZTRs have the capability to do large lots, yet.

Lithium batteries have a terrible reputation for causing fires. I would never leave one on a charger unattended. I know of two local people that have had fires due to cell phone batteries and RC model airplane batteries. I only charge my mower/trimmer batteries when I'm able to check on them, and I don't leave them on the charger after they are charged.

Charging a mower or an electric vehicle inside a garage is asking to have your house burn down.

 

People keep saying the batteries are a serious fire hazard and it is just not true. When they go up it is spectacular but it is a lower risk than an ice engine.


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